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Old 03-23-2020, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Texas
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The thing that prevents it from being use maliciously is the citizens, like always, those willing to take to the streets with torches and pitchforks !!!
Cause we'd take it out on Dr Frankenstein???
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Old 06-27-2020, 11:10 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Instead of guessing at what the Gov did or didn't order, why not look at the order itself? It's only two pages. Find it here:
https://covid19.ca.gov/img/N-33-20.pdf

I wondered where he got the authority to sling orders around like that without their being passed by the CA legislature. Turned out he had a lot of authority. He points out in the order that he's doing it under Calif Govt Code Sections 8567 and some others. I'm guessing that that legislation WAS passed by the CA Legislature and signed by some past governor. And it says in part:
"The Governor may make, amend, and rescind orders and regulations necessary to carry out the provisions of this chapter. The orders and regulations shall have the force and effect of law."

And it is not further restricted.

Wow. That looks to me like the State of California is granting the Gov the power to be a complete dictator in all things, as much as he wants, without restriction. Even "Emergencies" aren't mentioned until later when calling out other things. So his power to unilaterally give orders appears to be completely unlimited, at all times, any time he wants. In other words, he can become Hitler any time he wants, and stay that way as long as he wants.

See the text of Section 8567 here:
https://codes.findlaw.com/ca/governm...sect-8567.html

In today's Order, he's doing it for good reasons, like slowing the spread of Coronavirus. But it's scary knowing that ANY individual has such power in this country.

I have little objection to his Stay-at-Home order.
But I have HUGE objections to Calif Govt Code Section 8567. It gives the Governor essentially absolute power. Power that even Julius Caesar could only dream about.

Has anybody seen any other legislation that might limit this power?
Big-govt pushers are delighted, of course, at the idea of one man having such absolute power, accountable to no one.

Anybody know what authority other states governors have, to order their populations to stay at home, wear masks in public, close restaurants and other businesses etc.? It probably varies with the state. But it can't get much more draconian than what the Calif legislature has given its governor.

I hope.
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