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Old 03-21-2020, 10:43 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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Oh gawd...

You don't believe in him, so why bring him up? Because you have nothing else useful to say?
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Old 03-21-2020, 10:49 PM
 
Location: AZ
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Yet another “whataboutism”.

Because we haven’t had dozens of identical threads, OP.
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Old 03-21-2020, 11:06 PM
 
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You don't believe in him, so why bring him up? Because you have nothing else useful to say?
What do you know about what I believe ?
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Old 03-21-2020, 11:13 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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What do you know about what I believe ?

Well, maybe you do believe in a "gawd". Not any of my interest or care really.
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Old 03-21-2020, 11:19 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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The Victoria flu this winter was especially bad and attacked the young and healthy in particular yet the media rarely even mentioned it. I heard a story or two on it but that was it.

This years influenza outbreak was terrible. They never mention how the particularly deadly Victoria flu hit and it targets the young and children especially. 144 children died of the Victoria or H1N1 flu.
The first documented outbreak of the flu was in 1580, and the first coronavirus outbreak was in December 2019.
Influenza
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2001191

The death rate from the flu is about 0.1%, the death rate from the coronavirus is around 1.4% to 2.3%.
https://www.livescience.com/new-coro...-with-flu.html

What deserves more attention?

a.) A virus that has been around for 100's of years with a 0.1% death rate.

b.) A virus that has been around for 4 months with a 1.4% death rate.

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Just like any other virus, the numbers are about to skyrocket with this coronavirus and there will be all out hysteria.

Socially and economically America will be on the verge of collapse after this fiasco.
Coronavirus death rate by age,

60-69 years old- 3.6%
70-79 years old- 8%
80+ years old- 14.8%

https://www.propublica.org/article/t...-it-to-the-flu


Should we just ignore the coronavirus, or should we protect older Americans from the coronavirus until medical treatments and a vaccine are developed?
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Old 03-21-2020, 11:27 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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The first documented outbreak of the flu was in 1580, and the first coronavirus outbreak was in December 2019.
Influenza
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2001191

The death rate from the flu is about 0.1%, the death rate from the coronavirus is around 1.4% to 2.3%.
https://www.livescience.com/new-coro...-with-flu.html

What deserves more attention?

a.) A virus that has been around for 100's of years with a 0.1% death rate.

b.) A virus that has been around for 4 months with a 1.4% death rate.



Coronavirus death rate by age,

60-69 years old- 3.6%
70-79 years old- 8%
80+ years old- 14.8%

https://www.propublica.org/article/t...-it-to-the-flu


Should we just ignore the coronavirus, or should we protect older Americans from the coronavirus until medical treatments and a vaccine are developed?

Umm, last I heard, there are many varieties of coronavirus, some of which were discovered in the 90s. Wikipedia says the 60's. It's not one virus, but a whole group of different viruses. We are dealing with an outbreak of COVID-19, which is a new variety of coronavirus.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronavirus


Not sure how much you value wikipedia, but it can't be worse than the blatant misinformation floating around to scare the wits out of people. There are people claiming and arguing that coronavirus has a 66% mortality rate.


I don't see anyone saying we should ignore the coronavirus by the way, that's more disinformation.
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Old 03-21-2020, 11:30 PM
 
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Well, maybe you do believe in a "gawd". Not any of my interest or care really.
I consider myself more agnostic.
But I did type gawd instead of God for a reason.

But I guess my initial point was “oh gawd, this conspiracy stuff “...
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Old 03-21-2020, 11:35 PM
 
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The first documented outbreak of the flu was in 1580, and the first coronavirus outbreak was in December 2019.
Influenza
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2001191

The death rate from the flu is about 0.1%, the death rate from the coronavirus is around 1.4% to 2.3%.
https://www.livescience.com/new-coro...-with-flu.html

What deserves more attention?

a.) A virus that has been around for 100's of years with a 0.1% death rate.

b.) A virus that has been around for 4 months with a 1.4% death rate.



Coronavirus death rate by age,

60-69 years old- 3.6%
70-79 years old- 8%
80+ years old- 14.8%

https://www.propublica.org/article/t...-it-to-the-flu


Should we just ignore the coronavirus, or should we protect older Americans from the coronavirus until medical treatments and a vaccine are developed?
You're overlooking strains. Both the flu and coronavirus have strains. COVID-19 is the new strain of coronavirus and there's no vaccine. We discover new strains of the flu all the time. The difference is that a vaccine is developed before strains of flu go viral. This is not the same with COVID-19.
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Old 03-21-2020, 11:38 PM
 
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All the hysteria is about what "MIGHT" happen, not what "HAS" happened. Three months in and we've had 26,000 infections and 320 deaths. By my calculation, unless I'm doing something wrong, 320 deaths divided by 26,000 cases is a 0.01% death rate.

There's definitely a conspiracy of some sort afoot.
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Old 03-21-2020, 11:39 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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You're overlooking strains. Both the flu and coronavirus have strains. COVID-19 is the new strain of coronavirus and there's no vaccine. We discover new strains of the flu all the time. The difference is that a vaccine is developed before strains of flu go viral. This is not the same with COVID-19.

So coronavirus is not new, as you claim. It is only a new strain, like we have a new strain of the flu every year. So it is not some new scary monster that the lame stream media has made it out to be.

Ok. So lets make a vaccine. Shutting down the economy and crashing the global economy will not help in that pursuit, I can guarantee that. And locking everyone in their homes, or some other extreme measures, is just going to PO a whole lot of people for very little reward, if any, other than proving how much power the government has over your life.
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