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Old 03-21-2020, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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So republicans now want to mandate how businesses produce goods and services? Interesting.
Good point! Its time to evolve. Democrats were for keeping slavery, and they evolved...right? Was that a good thing?

Should humans learn and adjust, or be rigid?

I say we buy stuff from China that doesnt matter much in the grand scheme of things. The stuff that is still sitting on the store shelves right now, and American manufacture the stuff that is blowing out the doors.

This is a valuable learning opportunity.
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Old 03-21-2020, 05:43 PM
 
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Good point! Its time to evolve. Democrats were for keeping slavery, and they evolved...right? Was that a good thing?

Should humans learn and adjust, or be rigid?

I say we buy stuff from China that doesnt matter much in the grand scheme of things. The stuff that is still sitting on the store shelves right now, and American manufacture the stuff that is blowing out the doors.

This is a valuable learning opportunity.
Naw, I think letting companies choose how they want to run their business is a better option.
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Old 03-21-2020, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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This is why I hope trump wins in 2020.
Biden spent the last several decades in government overseeing regulations and bad trade policies that helped shift our supply chains overseas.
One of the biggest reasons American companies have moved so much manufacturing to China is not for lower cost but because it is the only way they could get access to the Chinese market - it is the governments responsibility to ensure trade is fair. The last time the government did this was when Reagan took on unfair Japanese practices in the 80s. For the next 30 years no administration did much of anything - democrat or republican.
If Trump can unemotionally communicate these facts in a debate with Joe, (no easy task for Trump), he'll win.

Biden voted in 2000 to noramalize trade relations with China....its called NTR for short.

A year later, in 2001, Biden supported the Clinton-Gore WTO China trade deal that flung the American market trade doors wide open to cheap Chinese goods.

We must educate the evnironmentalists about want Al Gore did to shift production to a Country who still relied heavily upon coal. Al Gore did more to pollute the planet than any other person, and this must be explained to our environmentalist friends.
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Old 03-21-2020, 05:51 PM
 
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Trumpsters voted for Bush, Romney, McCain and Reagan and now complain about "globalism".

Its beyond stupid.
This is true.
In the late 80's, thousands of protesters screamed against trade with China and the business community and chamber of commerce had them shutdown.
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Old 03-21-2020, 05:54 PM
 
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That ain’t our problem
Oh, it is our problem though because I have a problem with that.
Our government should arrest any business owners that trade with countries where slave labor is used.
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Old 03-21-2020, 05:56 PM
 
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If Trump can unemotionally communicate these facts in a debate with Joe, (no easy task for Trump), he'll win.

Biden voted in 2000 to noramalize trade relations with China....its called NTR for short.

A year later, in 2001, Biden supported the Clinton-Gore WTO China trade deal that flung the American market trade doors wide open to cheap Chinese goods.

We must educate the evnironmentalists about want Al Gore did to shift production to a Country who still relied heavily upon coal. Al Gore did more to pollute the planet than any other person, and this must be explained to our environmentalist friends.
Their factories are also way less safe and far more polluting. Working in the chemical industry I have first hand experiences with this.

Some people in this thread just want to regulate the hell out of things and then just buy from some foreign country who doesn't have to deal with the cost from these regulations.
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Old 03-21-2020, 06:01 PM
 
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Well, I’m not.

I ain’t trying to stop ya from buying domestic goods.
Okay, good to know.
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Old 03-21-2020, 06:06 PM
 
Location: western East Roman Empire
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That is actually a Bernie policy that Trump hijacked ...
Sanders and Trump do overlap on some policies stances. In fact, they would fit nicely together as president and vice-president.

However, Sanders is aggressively pro-illegal alien, which is totally negates all his other policy stances and disqualifies him. Pence is doing a better job at protecting people legally on US soil.


Anyway, assuming we are at the back end of the parabola in 2-3 months, indeed a blessing of all this would be further de-gearing of globalism (ongoing at a slow pace since 2008), continued recently achieved energy, continued food independence, and a resurgence of manufacturing independence at least in the most critical sectors where it is lacking, such as medical equipment and pharmaceuticals.

A new war of independence!
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Old 03-21-2020, 06:13 PM
 
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Sanders and Trump do overlap on some policies stances. In fact, they would fit nicely together as president and vice-president.

However, Sanders is aggressively pro-illegal alien, which is totally negates all his other policy stances and disqualifies him. Pence is doing a better job at protecting people legally on US soil.


Anyway, assuming we are at the back end of the parabola in 2-3 months, indeed a blessing of all this would be further de-gearing of globalism (ongoing at a slow pace since 2008), continued recently achieved energy, continued food independence, and a resurgence of manufacturing independence at least in the most critical sectors where it is lacking, such as medical equipment and pharmaceuticals.

A new war of independence!
Sanders wasn't always pro-illegal alien.
He was actually the opposite but changed because of his progressive base being so strong for it because it was the opposite of trump.

Swapping your longstanding positions just to be the opposite of Trump falls under the category of TDS I believe.
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Old 03-21-2020, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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If anything companies will want to diversify supply chains to more areas. They aren’t going to bring them to the USA only.
Good point. You might in the future buy something made in a country you never heard of.
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