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Old 03-22-2020, 06:30 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Big difference. There was a democrat in office then.
Correct and the media was in his pocket.

 
Old 03-22-2020, 06:31 PM
 
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I've posted the H1N1 vaccine timeline in details several times in various threads. The short story is work began in April, clinical testing in July, 4 vaccines FDA approved in September, orders placed and vaccinations begun in October, and widely available to all in December. All in 2009.

https://www.city-data.com/forum/reti...l#post57575764
 
Old 03-22-2020, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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This deadlier, more contagious, and we have no treatments for it, and it is easier to develop a vaccine for influenza than coronavirus at this time.
Um no. It has not proven to be "deadlier and more contagious".

The flu "vaccine" (aka flu shot) doesn't actually prevent everyone from getting the flu. In fact:

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CDC conducts studies each year to determine how well the influenza (flu) vaccine protects against flu illness. While vaccine effectiveness (VE) can vary, recent studies show that flu vaccination reduces the risk of flu illness by between 40% and 60% among the overall population during seasons when most circulating flu viruses are well-matched to the flu vaccine.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/vaccines-wor...cineeffect.htm

They state 40-60% so let's go with 50%. That means it's only half way effective, and it doesn't prevent it, it "reduces the risk" - by only 50%. That's it.

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Influenza is a potentially serious disease that can lead to hospitalization and sometimes even death. Every flu season is different, and influenza infection can affect people differently, but millions of people get flu every year, hundreds of thousands of people are hospitalized and thousands to tens of thousands of people die from flu-related causes every year.
The flu has affected over 38 - 54 million...that's with an 'm', million people in this country alone already this year. Has Coronavirus affected 38 - 54 million people? Let's pretend that corona only started in January - because I'm tired of having the discussion with people that it more than likely started well before that. Okay, so the flu has 38 - 54 million with 3 months head start.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden...-estimates.htm

Where are we at with Corona right now, 3 months into it? 32,800 according to this article:

https://www.businessinsider.com/wuha...sk-2020-1?op=1

The flu has killed over 23,000 - 59,000 people, that's thousands, in this country alone already this year.

How many deaths by Coronavirus in 3 months so far: 400

54,000,000 vs 32,800

59,000 vs 400

Even if corona virus got 10 times the people that is has now in the next 3 months, it would still be nowhere near what the flu has done to people this year.

And yet, every single year, despite millions of people getting the flu, and thousands and thousands dying every single year from the flu, (not my words, the CDC used those words), we don't have "shelter in place" orders, nor do we have "force businesses to close" orders, nor do have panic and mayhem and people hoarding everything that they can find at the store, nor do we have people harassing, berating, and threatening their neighbors for going about their lives. We didn't even have that happen in 2009 during the "H1N1 pandemic" - because I know people love throwing the word "pandemic" around - we had one in 2009. With the H1N1 flu.

Did you see or hear about any panic, closed businesses, orders to stay home, hoarding at stores, president trashing because of it in 2009?

Did you see or hear about any panic, closed businesses, orders to stay home, hoarding at stores, president trashing because of it last year? How about in the past 10 years?

The flu kills thousands and thousands and thousands every. single. year. Millions get it every. single. year. And we have a "vaccine" - and yet, it kills thousands and thousands every. single. year. Millions get it, despite us having a "vaccine" for it, every. single. year.

And you're trying to tell us that corona is "more contagious" and "deadlier"?

How about...no. It's not.
 
Old 03-23-2020, 01:02 AM
 
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It was developed AFTER 60 million Americans were infected, and over 12,000 died. At least we have a treatment with Covid-19 already. It's likely to peak in terms of new cases in this country in the next 2 weeks and start dropping off.
Thats the hope, but its looking more likely, people have been spreading it left and right, so we are going to see cases popping up for weeks and probably months to come.


Our state JUST NOW, took drastic measures to close most places, God knows how much it was being spread around the past week or two!! (especially since so many people were NOT following distancing rules).
 
Old 03-23-2020, 02:05 AM
 
Location: Orange County/Las Vegas
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Who says this virus is deadlier? The swine flu (2008) infected over 60 million people just in the US. It was spread the same way. Respiratory droplets etc. Also infected and killed young children. We don't know yet if this one will be more deadly.
 
Old 03-23-2020, 05:58 AM
 
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Who says this virus is deadlier? The swine flu (2008) infected over 60 million people just in the US. It was spread the same way. Respiratory droplets etc. Also infected and killed young children. We don't know yet if this one will be more deadly.
The doctors and experts said, that is who.

I have no idea why some of you all keep up this drum beat, as if you all refuse to read anything about this.
 
Old 03-23-2020, 06:08 AM
 
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Because we had a vaccine.
 
Old 03-23-2020, 06:34 AM
 
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Because we had a vaccine.

No, we didn't.
 
Old 03-23-2020, 06:51 AM
 
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Because coronavirus is bullcrap, an exaggeration at best but, most likely a fabrication.

It's nothing but a pretext for martial law.
 
Old 03-23-2020, 06:58 AM
 
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Because coronavirus is bullcrap, an exaggeration at best but, most likely a fabrication.

It's nothing but a pretext for martial law.

Then world leaders must know of an impending alien invasion of the planet because the lockdowns are world-wide.
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