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Old 03-24-2020, 02:21 PM
 
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If there is a way to open up the country and the cases and mortality rate continues to go down would you then agree it was a good idea?
Not here but it seems like people on FB seem to enjoy this. The unknown, not having to go to work.

On another note, do you agree closing down the border early on did help it not spread as fast.

First, we need to see the cases go down. They are escalating in my world. What's the count in your world?

Yes, if the count starts to go down, then we need to open up into easing back out.

Also, no one closed down the border "early." Please cite your reference for that.

I'm afraid you are still erroneously referring to cutting off Chinese tourism to the states in late January which was not "early." Early would have been in December when it was raging there. Oh, what was done on 31 January should have been much more strict.

So what border closed early?
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Old 03-24-2020, 02:22 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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If there is a way to open up the country and the cases and mortality rate continues to go down would you then agree it was a good idea?
Not here but it seems like people on FB seem to enjoy this. The unknown, not having to go to work.

On another note, do you agree closing down the border early on did help it not spread as fast.
If there was a way to do that then sure, but stopping all precautions and letting the virus run wild is not that. We are going to have a health catastrophe of epic proportions and Trump's base is going to be hit the hardest.
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Old 03-24-2020, 02:24 PM
 
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If there was a way to do that then sure, but stopping all precautions and letting the virus run wild is not that. We are going to have a health catastrophe of epic proportions and Trump's base is going to be hit the hardest.
As you know very well, nobody is proposing stopping all precautions. But shutting down our entire society for an extended period of time is arguably as bad or worse than the virus. A balance must be achieved here. It is not just one or the other.
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Old 03-24-2020, 02:27 PM
 
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I want to see things go back to normal as soon as possible. The way things have been going, it's been costly. And people are still getting sick. How long do we need to stay down? How much is it going to cost? How much should we be willing to give up. There are people going home without jobs left and right. The economy has taken a major hit.

This is the thing. I'm sick of living day to day. I'm sick of the uncertainty. I never know what is going on. What I'm hearing is 15 days, and then I hear sometime by Easter. I don't know how long we're going to have to remain down. I don't have the money to remain down for MONTHS. I have work now, but if things continue the way they are going now, there could be even more layoffs. It could very well be me.

Here is another thing that is scary. It's hard to tell what is going on. I'm not panic shopping, but I'm panicking for another reason. Uncertainty. I rest alot easier when I know what's going to happen, when it's going to happen, and how it will happen.

1) How do we protect the vulnerable while at the same time, letting the healthy live normal lives? I'm not one of those persons who says "let those old people die". I don't want anyone to die. I do wonder which better ways this could have been handled.

2) How long is this going to last? I am really scared. And not just Covid-19. I'm scared of the possibility of losing my job simply due to lack of work coming in. And Covid-19 has alot to do with it.

3) Not knowing the truth. I'm hearing conflicting reports from all over. The left, the right, everywhere. Only panic everywhere. Panic on one end, arrogance on the other side. What treatments are out there? Do they work? Has this stuff peaked? Is it going down? Is it getting worse? Just more uncertainty, something I don't work well with.
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Old 03-24-2020, 02:27 PM
 
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...and Trump's base is going to be hit the hardest.
What a peculiar thing to be saying.
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Old 03-24-2020, 02:28 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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They’re afraid Trump will look good and the economy will rebound.
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Old 03-24-2020, 02:29 PM
 
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They’re afraid Trump will look good and the economy will rebound.
The system is broken and not because of the virus. It is being exposed now for the woefully broken corrupted system it is. But feel free to move about freely as long as you only come in direct contact with your family after you do.
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Old 03-24-2020, 02:30 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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As you know very well, nobody is proposing stopping all precautions. But shutting down our entire society for an extended period of time is arguably as bad or worse than the virus. A balance must be achieved here. It is not just one or the other.
I think if everyone adheres to social distancing and simply stays at home until Easter, we could perhaps have flattened the curve and be on a roadmap to returning to normal. However, people cannot think that they can get out and live their normal routines now because if people don't stay home, that won't be enough time.
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Old 03-24-2020, 02:32 PM
 
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No one is benefiting from any of this confusion and uncertainty, so why not aim for actually KNOWING when this will cool down, how it will cool down, and when we can go back to normal? It does no one any good for the economy to tank and for millions to be jobless, in addition to being sick.
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Old 03-24-2020, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Camberville
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I count myself fortunate to be surrounded by people - including my employer - who took this seriously early before any mandatory shut downs. Most of my social circle has been socially isolating for 2 weeks.


No one is happy about this. No one wants the economy to crash. No one is thrilled to be at home. Sure, some people are very loudly making the best of it, but if all the free content being created by artists, musicians, yoga instructors, etc. is any indication, most people want to be productive.



We all want this over as soon as safely possible without throwing out our elderly, people with preexisting conditions, medical staff, and simply people with bad luck out with the bathwater.
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