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Old 03-27-2020, 08:29 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Originally Posted by DT113876 View Post
More dangerous, anti-intellectual attacks on expertise. Comparing national political polling that fails to account for the electoral college, with the opinions of experts in pandemics is a non sequitur.
Reps to you.

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Old 03-27-2020, 08:34 AM
 
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Here is what the expert tweeted;

"1/4 - I think it would be helpful if I cleared up some confusion that has emerged in recent days. Some have interpreted my evidence to a UK parliamentary committee as indicating we have substantially revised our assessments of the potential mortality impact of COVID-19.

2/4 -This is not the case. Indeed, if anything, our latest estimates suggest that the virus is slightly more transmissible than we previously thought. Our lethality estimates remain unchanged.

3/4 - My evidence to Parliament referred to the deaths we assess might occur in the UK in the presence of the very intensive social distancing and other public health interventions now in place.

4/4 - Without those controls, our assessment remains that the UK would see the scale of deaths reported in our study (namely, up to approximately 500 thousand)."
Gee, that sounds nothing like what the OP posted. Is the OP lying? It appears so. In other words, business as usual on CD.
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Old 03-27-2020, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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Modeling truth: GIGO forever!
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Old 03-27-2020, 08:55 AM
 
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So, the OP's premise is that since the NYT gave hillary a roughtly 5/6ths chance of winning that the outcome invalidates all other projections by anyone, anytime, anywhere....that they don't want to believe.

Double O, 5/6ths reporting for duty with their license to be willfully ignorant.
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Old 03-27-2020, 09:10 AM
 
Location: USA
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You know, that statement literally says Donald Trump has a chance of winning..... Try going back to math class.
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Old 03-27-2020, 09:53 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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So, the OP's premise is that since the NYT gave hillary a roughtly 5/6ths chance of winning that the outcome invalidates all other projections by anyone, anytime, anywhere....that they don't want to believe.

Double O, 5/6ths reporting for duty with their license to be willfully ignorant.
Couldn't rep you again, yet.

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Old 04-19-2020, 12:22 PM
 
Location: West Coast U.S.A.
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And when the US death toll is under 20k....
Wow, here we are less than a month later and the death toll is now over 20K. In fact it's more than double at 40,109.
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Old 04-19-2020, 02:13 PM
 
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I don't care about Hillary, lets talk about the virus... Tell me how you know more than the top epidemiologist at the CDC?
I am willing to wager there are people on these fora that know more about math and statistics than the top epidemiologist at the CDC. Being a general expert on how a virus works doesn't translate to having the skills to create statistical models.

They were inaccurate and totally worthless anyway.
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Old 04-19-2020, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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I am willing to wager there are people on these fora that know more about math and statistics than the top epidemiologist at the CDC. Being a general expert on how a virus works doesn't translate to having the skills to create statistical models.

They were inaccurate and totally worthless anyway.
The models with the high death tolls were based on complete non intervention.

Now Trump is claiming credit for the "billions" (yes we know he meant millions) of live saved due to "his" interventions. He claims that the 2.2 million American deaths may have been an underestimate. So he is agreeing with the experts.

So Trump is saying this type of stuff.... basking in his glory.... but do Trump supporters call him out on it?

Of course not.
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Old 04-19-2020, 02:28 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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You know, that statement literally says Donald Trump has a chance of winning..... Try going back to math class.
I dont think most of the people in this forum understand what "chance" is. Its one of the oddest arguments that keeps being made in this forum.

I doubt they would misunderstand if we were talking about a hail mary pass in football and the likelyhood of someone coming down with the pass in the endzone.
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