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Old 03-27-2020, 10:19 AM
 
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When Americans are faced with a national crisis, they normally rally around the President. The last major national crisis was 9/11. Let's compare the "rally effect" for Bush vs Trump:

Change in approval ratings

GW Bush: Sept 10, 52%. Oct 10, 88%. +36%
Trump: Jan 21, 42%. Today, 46%. +4%

Conclusion: George Bush was far, far more effective at providing leadership that rallied Americans to his side. Trump's leadership has been sorely lacking by comparison. Bush was able to bring nearly all Democrats and Independents over to his side, united in one cause. Trump has not.

(source: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...ex_cid=rrpromo)
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Old 03-27-2020, 10:21 AM
 
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It seems that there is a trend in the early days of a crisis to see a boost in the Presidential approval.
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Old 03-27-2020, 10:22 AM
 
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Bush has the good sense not call 9/11 a hoax and blame the democrats.
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Old 03-27-2020, 10:22 AM
 
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People really are sheep, reliant on the myth of a great leader. The fact that bush the bungler had such high marks is all the evidence one needs.

And don't confuse approval ratings with effectiveness
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Old 03-27-2020, 10:22 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Elliott_CA View Post
When Americans are faced with a national crisis, they normally rally around the President. The last major national crisis was 9/11. Let's compare the "rally effect" for Bush vs Trump:

Change in approval ratings

GW Bush: Sept 10, 52%. Oct 10, 88%. +36%
Trump: Jan 21, 42%. Today, 46%. +4%

Conclusion: George Bush was far, far more effective at providing leadership that rallied Americans to his side. Trump's leadership has been sorely lacking by comparison. Bush was able to bring nearly all Democrats and Independents over to his side, united in one cause. Trump has not.

(source: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...ex_cid=rrpromo)
That is because the left has TDS and 3+ years later still have not healed.
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Old 03-27-2020, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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When Americans are faced with a national crisis, they normally rally around the President. The last major national crisis was 9/11. Let's compare the "rally effect" for Bush vs Trump:

Change in approval ratings

GW Bush: Sept 10, 52%. Oct 10, 88%. +36%
Trump: Jan 21, 42%. Today, 46%. +4%

Conclusion: George Bush was far, far more effective at providing leadership that rallied Americans to his side. Trump's leadership has been sorely lacking by comparison. Bush was able to bring nearly all Democrats and Independents over to his side, united in one cause. Trump has not.

(source: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...ex_cid=rrpromo)
Ehh. Apples and oranges.

The mainstream media didn't try to crucify and come for Bush's neck every hour of every day, like they do Trump.

9/11 was a terrorist attack, with far more people killed in the US than COVID-19 so far has claimed (hoping it isn't many more).

This COVID-19 is serious, but the media has been the gasoline to the fire and has caused undue panic and misinformation to be widespread.

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Old 03-27-2020, 10:24 AM
 
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9/11 and a global virus are two entirely different issues.

Bush could immediately call for a retaliation. He had a known and visible target. Trump is fighting an invisible enemy, and a widely unknown one. The world is scrambling on this one while 9/11 was a U.S. issue.

I am giving no props to Trump as he is not my favorite. And I did like Bush's response. But despite some of the idiotic words Trump has said, from a China virus to let's get back to work by Easter, the comparison is simply unfair.
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Old 03-27-2020, 10:26 AM
 
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Hopefully Trump gets us in an illegal war like Bush did. I am sure he will be invited on the Ellen show soon enough



also, back then the country wasn't as divided as we are now. If 9/11 happened now we would have many Democrats defend Afghanistan and try to blame America. Fact!
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Old 03-27-2020, 10:28 AM
 
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9/11 was an act of war committed by a foreign enemy. The nation always rallies around a war time president. The virus is just another opportunity for the lame stream media to toss out more steaming hot buckets of TDS BS. The TDSers here obviously lap it up.
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Old 03-27-2020, 10:30 AM
 
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People really are sheep, reliant on the myth of a great leader. The fact that bush the bungler had such high marks is all the evidence one needs.
I'm not a fan of George Bush but I do believe that faced with this pandemic he would have done a far better job than Trump is. I don't think Bush would have dismissed the threat for six weeks after getting an intelligence briefing that the coming pandemic is a major threat. And I know Bush would not say to New York, "you don't need 30,000 ventilators." Bush has a down home compassionate side to him that would have resonated well with many. Trump is toxic, he leads by insults and fear.
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