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Old 03-27-2020, 09:12 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Maybe we could come up with some way to increase the costs of goods imported from foreign nations. Like, perhaps a special tax that affected those products....but not products actually produced in this country, by Americans. Some small effort to level the playing field against foreign nations that dump their products in America at a loss, that have no worker safety regulations and that ignore environmental considerations. Thereby encouraging companies to produce in this nation.
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Old 03-27-2020, 09:36 PM
 
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And they know that if they charge more for their stuff, nobody will buy it. The vast majority of people will buy at the lower price other companies charge, without regard for where it's made. So the corporation will have to make it in China too, or die.
That - is not the case. It's just that people are trained to buy junk. I buy t-shirts and hoodies from American Giant. US-grown cotton processed in US plants and sewn into the best garment of it's type you'll ever wear in a US plant. It's 20% over a made-in-Bangladesh hoodie with a logo, and way better.
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Old 03-27-2020, 09:41 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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That - is not the case. It's just that people are trained to buy junk.
Do you have any evidence or backup to the existence of this mysterious "training" you have come up with?

Or did you just make it up because it sounded like something you wished were true, however nonsensical?
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Old 03-28-2020, 01:28 AM
 
Location: Central Florida
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Not at all.

The US gov refused to take medical care seriously like they do with defense. The US would not ever dare have its tanks, F-22, etc, outsourced wholly, nor the numerous critical components for these things, yet with healthcare, has zero care, treats such threats as second rate compared to say a nuclear attack, or needing 5,000 tanks sitting in storage.

There are alot of domestic manufacturers of medical equipment in the US, still. But expecting the so-called "free market" to be able to respond quickly to a pandemic is simply not realistic.
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Old 03-28-2020, 01:29 AM
 
Location: Central Florida
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Nice bit of nonsense.


But here is a clue-It wasn't the left that did this.

True- neoliberalism is an ideology of the right, not the left.
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Old 03-28-2020, 01:47 AM
 
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Looks like the US also makes lots of masks etc:
https://www.thomasnet.com/articles/t...rer-suppliers/


Thread fail. not only do we make masks etc, we also make ventilators.


Im surprised so many us companies make masks to be honest, I figured all of it would be overseas. The ventilators were no surprise though, I listed one, but given that they can be more complex, and people want to be able to sue if something goes wrong I wasnt surprised to see them made here.
They're headquartered in the U.S. but do they actually manufacture in the U.S.? If there are so many U.S.-based mask manufacturers why is there such a drastic shortage of masks in the U.S.? My understanding is that 95% of face masks are currently being manufactured in China and Taiwan.
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Old 03-28-2020, 01:51 AM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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Even with the Defense PRoduction Act, there's simply not much manufacturing capacity in the USA period thanks to the globalists on the liberal left and the unfair trade agreements they signed that basically send all American manufacturing to other countries. There is hardly any manufacturing left in America, period.

It's no longer just about blue collar American jobs being send overseas, its about our own national security in times like this, and possible disruptions in the foreign supply chain and how that can impact the US economy. IF you ask any liberal or Democrat, they will say that America doesn't need manufacturing, that we should all be going to college and pursuing a high-tech career. They look down on jobs that don't require a college background like manufacturing jobs.
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Old 03-28-2020, 02:55 AM
 
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This is a result of the liberal Democrats' unfair trade agreements that have sent all of our manufacturing capacity abroad. Including manufacturing of medical supplies. If China needs these supplies of course they're going to help their own people first before exporting any.
Plenty of blame to go around...
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2010
GOP Blocks Bill to Punish Companies that Move Jobs Abroad

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gop-blo...e-jobs-abroad/

2014
Republican senators block tax hike on firms moving abroad

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/republi...moving-abroad/

2016
Trump abandons campaign promise to penalize outsourcing, offers tax breaks instead

https://thinkprogress.org/trump-carr...s-913348bbf46/
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Old 03-28-2020, 03:20 AM
 
Location: California
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I hope everyone sees the need to bring more manufacturing back to the USA even if it means less variety and higher prices. So much of what we buy is practically disposable these days even if it shouldn't be, cheap junk. I think we can all do with less stuff of better quality. I hope we still know how to build quality....
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Old 03-28-2020, 05:16 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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Nothing is made.
What if there is a war or a global emergency?
It's going to be difficult to produce the 3.5 Billion masks that some media outlets are citing, and most countries are short of personal protection equipment, so it's not uniqiue to the US.

The time frame means it would be impossible to meet that type of demand, although US industry is responding and manufacturing plants are working 24/7, and the US has a large global pharma and medical equipment industrial sector.

US medical workers will need 3.5 billion face masks if the coronavirus reaches pandemic status. Right now, the country only has 1% of that number - Business Insider

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