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My herd is okay so far no flu or anything like that but one of my daughters business is essentially gone for the time being. She's also 4 1/2 months pregnant so she's not going anywhere. Son in law took the kid out to the woods because she's going nuts, mom is with the 2 year old. I run errands for them, lots of laundry this weekend.
My herd is okay so far no flu or anything like that but one of my daughters business is essentially gone for the time being. She's also 4 1/2 months pregnant so she's not going anywhere. Son in law took the kid out to the woods because she's going nuts, mom is with the 2 year old. I run errands for them, lots of laundry this weekend.
I hope they all stay that way. This hit my family out of the blue, as strange as that may sound in these uncertain times. I really thought by grown children, ages 36 and 33, would be relatively safe. Then BAM!, in the blink of an eye you realize exactly how vulnerable we all are.
I hope they all stay that way. This hit my family out of the blue, as strange as that may sound in these uncertain times. I really thought by grown children, ages 36 and 33, would be relatively safe. Then BAM!, in the blink of an eye you realize exactly how vulnerable we all are.
I'm also 36 but I don't smoke and generally try to maintain a healthy lifestyle.
My perception on this from the beginning is that those who are most vulnerable to it are people with existing health issues either from old age, inherited genetic disorders or poor lifestyle choices.
It's very sad but sometimes we don't evaluate our life choices until something like this hits us in the face.
Again though I do hope your son pulls through.
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My son is in ICU on a ventilator. He is 36 years old, and yes, a smoker. He presented last night with fever and pneumonia.
No visitors allowed to ICU, and I’ve been unable to get through to the ICU unit on the phone for hours now. My call gets rerouted to a dead phone bank. No way to know what’s happening, no way to get a prognosis or even an update at this point.
I am one person. Multiply that by thousands and you get the idea of what it’s like on the other side,with people waiting to see if our loved ones will survive, waiting to hear what is happening with them, unable to speak to a doctor to find out their condition.
I think of my son, all alone, probably scared, with no one to talk to him, no one to comfort him other than an overworked staff, while his family waits in anxious limbo for any news.
This is a part of the nightmare that isn’t talked about, but is happening wherever this virus has taken hold. It's a feeling of complete helplessness. I don’t wish this on anybody. All you people pooh-poohing this virus as no big deal,please understand the far-reaching ramifications of this un-contained spread. An overwhelmed medical system affects everyone in ways they don't even realize. You have no idea what a nightmare this is until/unless it strikes you or your family firsthand.
Oh JAMS, I am so sorry! What a nightmare. Thinking of your son, you and your family and praying for him to recover soon.
I know what the OP is going through. My dad was a smoker and I remember all those winter flu seasons when his flu progressed to pneumonia and he wound up in the hospital. As a small child, it seemed like a normal thing to me! He wouldn't quit smoking until years later when he had a heart attack. A wake up call!
Can anyone with medical background answer this question:
Wouldn't smoke kill bacteria and viruses in the lungs? Seems logical.
Question for the OP: Did your son vape? I've been hearing rumors about CV-19 being added to vape liquid as part of a bioweapons experiment. Remember that rash of vaping deaths?
I would hope that if there is a shortage of ventilators, they should go to non-smokers first. Smokers should be last.
I know that's offensive but I am deeply worried about others who have not made stupid choices.
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my son doesn't smoke but has iffy lungs - gets bad colds etc since he was born, now going to exclude him because of 2nd hand smoke? BTW not mine.
OP, I'm incredibly sorry to hear that. And thanks for sharing. It does hit home a little more, even when forum regulars like yourself share stories. While my family and friends have been hit with the coronavirus, thankfully its been nothing serious and they are all well on their way to recovery (hopefully). Prayers for your son and all others for a speedy recovery.
I would hope that if there is a shortage of ventilators, they should go to non-smokers first. Smokers should be last.
I know that's offensive but I am deeply worried about others who have not made stupid choices.
This may sound harsh, but if things get bad to the point where they are literally deciding who to give a ventilator to and the ventilator has an equally likely chance to save a smoker vs. a non smoker, those are decisions that are going to have to be made. It may be uncomfortable to write about here, but those decisions would have to be made. And, trust me, you aren't the only one thinking about this.
I'm also 36 but I don't smoke and generally try to maintain a healthy lifestyle.
My perception on this from the beginning is that those who are most vulnerable to it are people with existing health issues either from old age, inherited genetic disorders or poor lifestyle choices.
It's very sad but sometimes we don't evaluate our life choices until something like this hits us in the face.
Again though I do hope your son pulls through.
The person I know in the ICU is a healthy 40 year old with no underlying conditions. I know second or thirdhand of people in their 20s and 30s in the ICU in NYC who are healthy marathon runners. No smokers among them.
While this disease can disproportionately impact those of us with preexisting conditions (and no, my cancer had nothing to do with "poor lifestyle choices"), it's the height of hubris to think that you could be spared. It's like when I was diagnosed with cancer at 23 and people's first question was, "How did you get it?" or their first response was to make guesses about what I did to cause it. It had nothing to me and was all about their fear response - they were trying to do the mental calculus about how they can't possibly be at risk. It's a really callous response.
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