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Old 03-29-2020, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Park City, UT
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A harvard scientist, Charles Lieber, was arrested back in February for using funds to start a research lab in Wuhan, China and lying about it to U.S. authorities.

He specialized in nanotechnology and the manipulation of molecules.

Interestingly enough, he was also on the payroll of the NIH and U.S. Department of Defence.

https://www.inkstonenews.com/science...rticle/3051378

Seems a little strange.
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Old 03-29-2020, 10:18 AM
 
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A harvard scientist, Charles Lieber, was arrested back in February for using funds to start a research lab in Wuhan, China and lying about it to U.S. authorities.

He specialized in nanotechnology and the manipulation of molecules.

Interestingly enough, he was also on the payroll of the NIH and U.S. Department of Defence.

https://www.inkstonenews.com/science...rticle/3051378

Seems a little strange.
He does not study virus. All their publications are online.
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Old 03-29-2020, 11:03 AM
 
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Good thing younhave your herbs to cure this disease. Perhaps the cdc should contact you...
Yeah, I had to laugh because the local news had on the top 5 coronavirus scams going around and the first thoughts through my head were that they were either "natural medicines" or colloidal silver.

Yep, all 5 of them.
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Old 03-29-2020, 11:07 AM
 
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Yes, it's a crackpot conspiracy theory. The Chinese have very poor animal husbandry practices for food animals, and a whole series of large epidemics have come from this. Those are still bad practices that should be stopped, but it's not a government plot.
Yep. They've had a really hard time stopping swine flu because of people having lots of micro-farms (like if your neighbor had 2 pigs in their backyard.)
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Old 03-29-2020, 11:12 AM
 
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Bioweapons don't have to kill people to be effective. If your enemy is bedridden and struggling to breath, they aren't going to be of much use in any fight. Heck, there was one conspiracy theory I heard that the CIA made a bioweapon that turned people gay
That's not a conspiracy theory. It's well documented. The US government tried to develop a bioweapon that they could drop on opposing forces that would turn them gay. They thought that this would crush the morale of the enemy. They never were able to create the weapon though.
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Old 03-29-2020, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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This is actually disturbing because it seems credible:
It's not even remotely credible.

A credible person would be a coronavirologist.

Yes, just like there really are virologists, there are coronavirologists.

Do you want to be educated and informed, or do you wish to remain ignorant for the rest of your life?

I ask, because if you want to be educated and informed instead of being a mushroom, you can read these articles written by bona fide coronavirologists:

McIntosh K, Kapikian AZ, Turner HC, Hartley JW, Parrott RH, Chanock RM. Seroepidemiologic studies of coronavirus infection in adults and children. Am J Epidemiol. 1970;91:585–592.

Callow KA, Parry HF, Sergeant M, Tyrrell DA. The time course of the immune response to experimental coronavirus infection of man. Epidemiol Infect. 1990;105:435–446.

Those are just two of dozens and dozens of peer-reviewed articles published in various medical journals from 1965 to the present by bona fide coronavirologists.

Note that Dr. Tyrrell is one of the two British researchers who discovered corona virus in 1965.

Since it's discovery in 1965, the corona virus is known to mutate into a new strain every 2-3 years.

Between 2003-2019, you had 5 corona virus mutations, including one that originated here in the US (HCOV-NH).

Am I boring you with facts?

Perhaps you should consider the gross incompetence of the creators of your so-called bio-terror weapon.

Because, you know, if they were competent, they would have created virus that has a 50%-100% mortality rate, and not one with a paltry 1.4% mortality rate.

And how stupid are they to let it out of the lab?

There is no evidence COVID-19 originated in China. There is evidence it was discovered there, but discovery and origin are two different concepts.

If you require assistance discerning the difference between those two concepts, I'll be happy to guide you.

It's just as reasonable as COVID-19 originated in the US and someone took it back to China, or it originated in Africa or Oceania and took it back to China.

The Chinese do a lot of business in Africa and Oceania. It's just as likely that someone was on some Pacific Island perhaps attempting to negotiate a port deal for Chinese merchant or naval vessels and brought it back with them.
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Old 03-29-2020, 11:54 AM
 
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A bioweapon that 98% of its targets survive???

Some weapon.
Hypothetically, if it was a weapon designed to significantly impact our economy, would you call it a successful weapon?
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Old 03-29-2020, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Eureka CA
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Thanks for promoting bull****. We appreciate it SO much!
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Old 03-29-2020, 12:17 PM
 
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Thanks for promoting bull****. We appreciate it SO much!
God point. We know a government would never consider creating a deadly weapon.
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Old 03-29-2020, 12:19 PM
 
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If your own people are also bedridden and struggling to breathe, what have you accomplished?

Considering China used to kill babies after they were born to control the population I could believe it.
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