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"Rice University and Canadian global health design firm Metric Technologies have developed an automated bag valve mask ventilation unit that can be built for less than $300 worth of parts."
Maybe this idea will take off across the world of healthcare?
I hope so.
Imagine what would happen to the affordability of healthcare if we could lose the mentality that medical equipment must cost tens of thousands of dollars or more.......
"Rice University and Canadian global health design firm Metric Technologies have developed an automated bag valve mask ventilation unit that can be built for less than $300 worth of parts."
Maybe this idea will take off across the world of healthcare?
I hope so.
Imagine what would happen to the affordability of healthcare if we could lose the mentality that medical equipment must cost tens of thousands of dollars or more.......
The prices of medical equipment is jacked up by all the regulations and threat of litigation. Also, a vent can be very simple, or it can be very complicated. There are a huge range of ventilator settings beyond simple tidal volume and rate. The multitude of different vent setting options is beyond the scope of this forum to discuss, but believe me- not all vents are created equal.
The prices of medical equipment is jacked up by all the regulations and threat of litigation. Also, a vent can be very simple, or it can be very complicated. There are a huge range of ventilator settings beyond simple tidal volume and rate. The multitude of different vent setting options is beyond the scope of this forum to discuss, but believe me- not all vents are created equal.
Acknowledged, just using this as an example of what's possible if we really put our minds to it.
I think that putting more effort into finding ways to lower the cost of healthcare is more productive than trying to promote single payer, while letting the status quo of insane pricing stay the same.
If healthcare wasn't so bloody expensive, single payer would be both more affordable and less necessary.
"Rice University and Canadian global health design firm Metric Technologies have developed an automated bag valve mask ventilation unit that can be built for less than $300 worth of parts."
Maybe this idea will take off across the world of healthcare?
I hope so.
Imagine what would happen to the affordability of healthcare if we could lose the mentality that medical equipment must cost tens of thousands of dollars or more.......
Would they be able to pass all the government regulations to get it approved for medical use for zero dollar?
That's great in terms of our present predicament. I'd be careful about extrapolating out though. The $300 only covers parts. Not assembly, energy, building rent, staff pay and benefits, distribution, marketing, etc, and I doubt that it's really the equivalent of a $25,000 ventilator in terms of performance, features and durability. For now, improvised designs that can be quickly and inexpensively built, are great.
Not saying medical equipment isn't generally overpriced, mind you, but you still want to compare things realistically if that's your goal.
That's great in terms of our present predicament. I'd be careful about extrapolating out though. The $300 only covers parts. Not assembly, energy, building rent, staff pay and benefits, distribution, marketing, etc, and I doubt that it's really the equivalent of a $25,000 ventilator in terms of performance, features and durability. For now, improvised designs that can be quickly and inexpensively built, are great.
Not saying medical equipment isn't generally overpriced, mind you, but you still want to compare things realistically if that's your goal.
Indeed- and today, even the simplest of medical ventilators have MANY vent settings and options. It is a little more complicated than people think.
1. controlled, assist control, SIMV
2. PEEP/no PEEP
3. pressure support
4. peak airway pressure settings
5. CO2 absorbers with rebreathing units
................... just to name a few. A vent is not as simple of a device as most people think.
"Rice University and Canadian global health design firm Metric Technologies have developed an automated bag valve mask ventilation unit that can be built for less than $300 worth of parts."
Maybe this idea will take off across the world of healthcare?
I hope so.
Imagine what would happen to the affordability of healthcare if we could lose the mentality that medical equipment must cost tens of thousands of dollars or more.......
Unfortunately, this doesn’t prove anything. Was there anybody who thought that a team of smart engineers from any one of a hundred universities, or from Parker, Eaton, Danaher, Lockheed, Boeing, etc., etc, couldn’t come up with a limited functionality ventilator for a few hundred bucks? The engineering and the parts aren’t the issue. I hope it gets deployed in this emergency, and it might even get traction in 3rd world countries, but long-term, the lawyers and regulators will assure it costs $30,000 here.
"Rice University and Canadian global health design firm Metric Technologies have developed an automated bag valve mask ventilation unit that can be built for less than $300 worth of parts."
Maybe this idea will take off across the world of healthcare?
I hope so.
Imagine what would happen to the affordability of healthcare if we could lose the mentality that medical equipment must cost tens of thousands of dollars or more.......
It doesn't matter if they could build them for $1. -- FDA has to approve them before they can be used.
THAT is the hold-up on everything. FDA approval.
It doesn't matter if they could build them for $1. -- FDA has to approve them before they can be used.
THAT is the hold-up on everything. FDA approval.
Yep, the FDA is killing Americans again.
They were preventing private labs from testing for this virus and along with the CDC and the Trump administration are responsible for our situation today.
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