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Old 03-29-2020, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Reality is Trump didn’t ignore anything… He formed his own task force to deal with the problem, appointed good people to it and they are still working on the situation.

Nothing funny about it. There is no magic answer that can make this go away... we just have to work through it. The sooner people stop pointing fingers the sooner they can actually put their hands to work helping.
You ignored the timeline...

What Trump/we are doing is playing catch-up - we lost ~6 weeks due to gross incompetence

 
Old 03-29-2020, 01:40 PM
 
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You ignored the timeline...

What Trump/we are doing is playing catch-up - we lost ~6 weeks due to gross incompetence
Not according to WHO. They said he did a good job.

But go ahead and take the word of his political rival that hates him.
 
Old 03-29-2020, 01:41 PM
 
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South Korea has a population of 51 million and it is approximately the size of Indiana. Furthermore, their culture is very different to American culture.

The US has a population of 331 million and is 99 times bigger than South Korea. The US has a much more independent culture.

So I'm curious as to how the US could be expected to test "everyone" and supply masks to "everyone". How exactly would you have made that happen? There would be people here who would absolutely refuse to get tested, especially if they were asymptomatic or not ill. And how would you time testing to the emergence of the disease?

Regarding the getting back to work and that it would be nice to see churches filled on Easter, that seemed to me to be the President expressing his hope that things could turn around quickly. There is nothing wrong with giving people hope. Are we supposed to tell everyone that they will be quarantined until July? Talk about creating a panic!

There are very real costs to this shutdown...costs to people's livelihoods, costs to people's mental health, costs that we haven't even realized yet.
I agree that these types of measures wouldn't work, as even to this day there are people flaunting their independence and refusing to adhere to the policies that ARE put in place. But there's no denying Trump's initial responses and the much needed time that was wasted there. No, I don't think he should have said we should be open by Easter. He needs to not put timelines on this situation. To do otherwise is reckless.

This country has been warned for years that a pandemic could happen. The time to have acted as far as supplies, tests, etc. would have been a long time ago. But it didn't help that the pandemic response leadership was fire and the team dismantled in 2018. Not prudent at all.
 
Old 03-29-2020, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Coastal Mid-Atlantic
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Exactly. Haters are going to hate.

You dont have to hate, to see incompetence. He dragged his feet for 2 months saying it was going to clear up and be gone.
 
Old 03-29-2020, 01:42 PM
 
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You dont have to hate, to see incompetence. He dragged his feet for 2 months saying it was going to clear up and be gone.
Like a miracle.
 
Old 03-29-2020, 01:42 PM
 
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It was in one of Trumps briefing, Dr Birx said NewYork has enough. Here it is from Cuomo, the hospitals don’t need them yet, it just wants to stockpile.

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronav...and-uninformed
Didn't New York also have a warehouse with 1000s of Ventilators the federal government had given them and they didn't even know about earlier this week?

Every states instinct is to hoard ventilators for worst case scenario. Federal government is doing what they should be doing and make sure these are distributed as needed instead of sending all the resources to one area and then not having enough for another area when they need it.
 
Old 03-29-2020, 01:43 PM
 
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You dont have to hate, to see incompetence. He dragged his feet for 2 months saying it was going to clear up and be gone.
WHO essentially gave him their highest marks for his handling of it.
 
Old 03-29-2020, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Rochester, WA
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You ignored the timeline...

What Trump/we are doing is playing catch-up - we lost ~6 weeks due to gross incompetence
Sorry I’m not gonna go on a treasure hunt on some other city data thread to find some buried post you think is important.

The whole world is dealing with this... not just Trump.

And it’s not lost - we are working through it.
 
Old 03-29-2020, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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It was in one of Trumps briefing, Dr Birx said NewYork has enough. Here it is from Cuomo, the hospitals don’t need them yet, it just wants to stockpile.

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronav...and-uninformed
Dr.Birx!!! This is the funniest thing I've heard in a long-time!! Please provide quote if you possibly can!

Trump says "hospitals usually have 1-2 ventilators - why do they need thousands now?" Amazing how incompetent he is!

More importantly, NYC doesn't need 30-40,000 ventilators TODAY - they need 'em in 14-21 days

Also: https://www.fox29.com/news/fauci-pre...0k-200k-deaths

jeez
 
Old 03-29-2020, 01:43 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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Didn't New York also have a warehouse with 1000s of Ventilators the federal government had given them and they didn't even know about earlier this week?

Every states instinct is to hoard ventilators for worst case scenario. Federal government is doing what they should be doing and make sure these are distributed as needed instead of sending all the resources to one area and then not having enough for another area when they need it.
That too. They just play the blame game.
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