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Old 04-04-2020, 05:29 AM
 
Location: NY
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Not a fan of Obama, if his decision on the States being responsible for emergency responses and forming 5heor own stockpiles, then it was the right decision.

IMHO, Obama wasn’t a good leader, but without question, he’s a good man.
The following is only my opinion:


Pulling our troops out of foreign countries, demanding payment from countries for military protection,
passing law giving all our military soldiers choice of any hospital in the Unites States, guarding our
borders and bringing jobs back to the Unites States..........hmmmm.
That would make President Donald Trump a greater leader and a greater man..................
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Old 04-04-2020, 05:35 AM
 
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So the right is afraid of a commission which will try to find what action's are working and make recommendations to improve the response.

Their TDS is showing each time they show fear, that administration may have to answer question's on how to protect the people.
No. You don’t distract the president and his staff from doing their jobs because of Pelosi’s wish to negate Trump’s positive approval coming from the orders. Maybe if your side hadn’t spent the last three years with hoaxes and lies driven by the left’s determination to oust a duly elected president, her actions wouldn’t be as suspicious. This is all about doing anything and everything to get Trump out of office, and if it detracts from our government working on treatments, and cures, and equipment, and thus costs lives, Pelosi et al is OK with that. She is driven by vengeance because the Senate wouldn’t bow to her highness and convict Trump.

She is the nastiest piece of work I’ve ever come across.
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Old 04-04-2020, 05:40 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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No. You don’t distract the president and his staff from doing their jobs because of Pelosi’s wish to negate Trump’s positive approval coming from the orders. Maybe if your side hadn’t spent the last three years with hoaxes and lies driven by the left’s determination to oust a duly elected president, her actions wouldn’t be as suspicious. This is all about doing anything and everything to get Trump out of office, and if it detracts from our government working on treatments, and cures, and equipment, and thus costs lives, Pelosi et al is OK with that. She is driven by vengeance because the Senate wouldn’t bow to her highness and convict Trump.

She is the nastiest piece of work I’ve ever come across.
Only Hilary is worse in the pecking order of nasty politicians. The people at the top of the democratic party are liars, criminals and total scum. Every one of them.

I need to get away from the computer - going hiking today, it's about the only thing that isn't closed.

Have a good day, everyone.
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Old 04-04-2020, 05:40 AM
 
Location: Richmond, VA
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Trump has spent 3 years (not 4 - you must be math challenged) fighting off Russian Collusion hoaxes, and fake impeachments. He's been kinda busy, don't you think?????

If he can't handle a number of major efforts at once, by delegating effectively, is he the best choice to be our President?
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Old 04-04-2020, 06:19 AM
 
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TF? Ok, let’s blame Obama. Or Bush. Hell, let’s blame Washington.

To the extent we had a stockpile, nobody necessarily know what to stockpile.

If I said we need to build a big stockpile of stuff for future disasters, where you’ll you even start?
Why not, Democrats blame president Trump for everything.

Seriously, if you are to build a stockpile you start with the worst case scenario. We know that our enemies would love to hit us with something like this so we think maintain life (ventilators, supplies, etc) buying time until we find an antidote, cure, etc.
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Old 04-04-2020, 06:23 AM
 
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Because Trump does nothing wrong and it’s ALWAYS someone else’s fault.

You think everything Trump does is wrong, yet Democrats lost to Trump. What does that say about you
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Old 04-04-2020, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Homeless
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You think everything Trump does is wrong, yet Democrats lost to Trump. What does that say about you
No not everything I’ve agreed with some things he’s done but the man is still an idiot. Everything is the previous presidents fault or the media or whatever else he can think of. Next thing he’ll blame California for the virus because they didn’t rake their leafs, and you conservatives will believe him. So at what point do you ask yourselves how is it always someone else’s fault?

Yes Trump won the election and he MIGHT win the next one so, are we expect to hear Trump blame Obama for the next four years as well? And somehow you conservatives will roll over and go along with it.
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Old 04-04-2020, 08:28 AM
 
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nobody read the article, they have used 4 pages to bash Obama and his deep state operatives...the article says a start up came up with a cheaper alternative which big pharma squashed in favor of their expensive one buy buying up the company in our casino stock market...nothing at all to do with any president and all about big business...sad keep-on bashing those lefties crew!
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Old 04-04-2020, 08:43 AM
 
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You think everything Trump does is wrong, yet Democrats lost to Trump. What does that say about you
It says we live in a nation with a lot of ignorant people. Thankfully the majority of Americans weren't so stupid to vote for a reality TV star with a sketchy past. But sadly the folks in the flyover states who comprise the majority of the electoral college and listen to Christian radio and right-wing propagandists all day continue to drag this country down the sewer.
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Old 04-04-2020, 09:06 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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There is way too much POTUS blaming here as for some reason you're expecting the POTUS to know every single item going on in their administrations. Who should be held accountable are the people who were in charge of these contracts that have spanned three administrations, spent Millions of dollars on and have gotten nothing to show for it. This has been going on for 16 years. Also keep in mind that if we had enough ventilators, we'd still need the disposable parts that are replaced on a near daily basis. So depending on who is using what manufacturers ventilator and the size of a persons face, hoses and pressure chambers, figure on around eight parts need to available daily. That's nearly 3000 parts over the course of a year for "each" machine. As each item has a shelf life, for non-pandemic years that turns a lot of waste.

Now looking at the span of years these contracts have been going on and the last two pandemics, then the administration that's held it the longest and doing nearly nothing has been the Obama Administration.
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