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Old 04-07-2020, 11:18 AM
 
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So the focal point of the current crisis has been inherited a 'broken' testing system.

Let's take a look at that closer. If this was for the flu or something that was already established, maybe, however this virus is totally new.

More importantly when someone has been in office for nearly 4 years you can't keep blaming the previous administration as you've had ample opportunity to take action.

Finally it doesn't seem like you can complain that you inherited a 'broken' system and find it acceptable yet blame governors for not purchasing more ventilators three and a half years ago.

Either a pandemic is a pandemic or it is not as consistency is the key on how the issue is looked at.

Nobody ever typically blames a crisis on the president, however they are held accountable in history on how they choose to handle it.

 
Old 04-07-2020, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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So the focal point of the current crisis has been inherited a 'broken' testing system.

Let's take a look at that closer. If this was for the flu or something that was already established, maybe, however this virus is totally new.

More importantly when someone has been in office for nearly 4 years you can't keep blaming the previous administration as you've had ample opportunity to take action.

Finally it doesn't seem like you can complain that you inherited a 'broken' system and find it acceptable yet blame governors for not purchasing more ventilators three and a half years ago.

Either a pandemic is a pandemic or it is not as consistency is the key on how the issue is looked at.

Nobody ever typically blames a crisis on the president, however they are held accountable in history on how they choose to handle it.
Funny how Trump inherited this "broken" Obama economy and "fixed" it, but he didn't bother to "fix" Obama's broken "testing system".
 
Old 04-07-2020, 11:46 AM
 
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And what if the system was flawed (a system for a virus we never had before but okay)......they were informed late December/early January. Start planning.

End of January -- oh it is bad enough to ban non-Americans traveling from China but yeah -- we aren't ready to look at the supplies we need -- it isn't going to be that bad.

Middle of February -- oh it will disappear.

End of February -- we are working -- testing coming any day now.
 
Old 04-07-2020, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Funny how Trump inherited this "broken" Obama economy and "fixed" it, but he didn't bother to "fix" Obama's broken "testing system".
Trump is unable to multi-task. He can only concentrate on breathing, TBH.
 
Old 04-07-2020, 11:55 AM
 
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Yes, yes, and yes.

The point is you can't blame a governor for not ordering equipment that he didn't know he would need to the level of capacity that is needed for this crisis by having to have ordered it three years ago and keep reiterating that every day.

I'll take the economy card and I'll play that one, but I will try to dismiss the pandemic federal office card consisting of necessary testing.
 
Old 04-07-2020, 11:58 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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So the focal point of the current crisis has been inherited a 'broken' testing system.

Let's take a look at that closer. If this was for the flu or something that was already established, maybe, however this virus is totally new.

More importantly when someone has been in office for nearly 4 years you can't keep blaming the previous administration as you've had ample opportunity to take action.

Finally it doesn't seem like you can complain that you inherited a 'broken' system and find it acceptable yet blame governors for not purchasing more ventilators three and a half years ago.

Either a pandemic is a pandemic or it is not as consistency is the key on how the issue is looked at.

Nobody ever typically blames a crisis on the president, however they are held accountable in history on how they choose to handle it.
Nothing is "broken". The FDA has the strictest of guidelines and that's because we demanded that.
And because of those strict guidelines the US could not use WHO's test.

Ain't nothing broken. We over-regulated ourselves into a corner.
 
Old 04-07-2020, 02:43 PM
 
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That is the term that's been used over and over a day after day now when anybody has asked the status of testing and why further testing hasn't been done. it continues to be explained that we have done more testing than any other country but that's so skewed due to the difference in population.

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Nothing is "broken". The FDA has the strictest of guidelines and that's because we demanded that.
And because of those strict guidelines the US could not use WHO's test.

Ain't nothing broken. We over-regulated ourselves into a corner.
 
Old 04-07-2020, 02:48 PM
 
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Trump bragged about saving money by firing the entire CDC pandemic response team. Never mind that the trillions of dollars lost during this shutdown could have been easily prevented by adequate preparation similar to Taiwan or South Korea.
 
Old 04-07-2020, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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I was following the disease that eventually got named COVID-19 since early January. I remember hear case after case after case where somebody tested negative four or five times, then positive on the next test. They were isolated. There was no way they got infected between tests. So we knew that the tests were insanely inaccurate.

Those were the tests provided by China and every early test was based on that. It was a terrible test, yet versions of the same thing are still being used all over the planet.

In order to come up with a test that didn't suck, obviously the United States would need to reinvent the wheel. We did that. There's a lot of other things I wish we'd done better of course, but the statement that the early tests were trash is completely true.
 
Old 04-07-2020, 03:09 PM
 
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Trump bragged about saving money by firing the entire CDC pandemic response team. Never mind that the trillions of dollars lost during this shutdown could have been easily prevented by adequate preparation similar to Taiwan or South Korea.
Yep, humongous amount of time was wasted. And we actually had more time to get ready compared to Korea, for instance.
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