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They should. They are the epicenter of this pandemic, and yet the governor isn’t taking the strongest stance possible. In my state, we are warned that if we violate the stay order, we will be subject to a prison sentence of as much as one year. Our governor means business!
Yet, the NY governor has no civil or criminal penalties for individuals who ignore the order and put others at peril. (He takes a tougher approach against businesses.) Why? If there is no penalty to gathering shoulder-to-shoulder to watch the Comfort come in, as an example, then selfish and/or stupid people will continue to do so.
It’s time for the governor to say people who put other’s lives at peril by violating the order will be put in prison. (Of course, the NYC mayor would object since his objective it to put criminals back in the streets, but the governor would supersede the mayor.)
They should. They are the epicenter of this pandemic,...
Not really. Just because it has a bigger circle on NYT's heat map doesn't mean its incidents are increasing at a more rapid rate than anyone else's (they're not).
As for New York City per se, it's "confirmed" rate is growing at an even lesser pace than the avg. for the rest of the country's, however helpful such a comparison might be.
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P.S. The NYC subway needs to stop.
But that system is used by people to get around to do essential jobs or even get to non COVID-19 related emergency care.
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Statistically, New York is actually doing a decent job of starting to flatten the curve. I don't see any data to support the theory that going from closing non-essential businesses and fining anyone not engaging in social distancing to stay-at-home orders would make an appreciable difference.
Weeks ago, Cuomo explained that he would not close the subway because health care workers, police, fire, and other essential workers rely on it to get to and from work.
If the subway stops, how will essential workers get to work? Most people in NYC do not have cars. Maybe some doctors would be able to drive in, but most nurses, hospital reception, orderlies, grocery workers, sanitation workers, cops, etc. would not have a way to get to and from work without public transit. That's one of the key issues in NYC right now.
Statistically, New York is actually doing a decent job of starting to flatten the curve. I don't see any data to support the theory that going from closing non-essential businesses and fining anyone not engaging in social distancing to stay-at-home orders would make an appreciable difference.
Weeks ago, Cuomo explained that he would not close the subway because health care workers, police, fire, and other essential workers rely on it to get to and from work.
Yeah, I don't see any data in your post either.
Look at the chart in the link below, HOW THE HECK IS THIS "FLATTENING THE CURVE"?
If you're talking about daily reported claims, then that has been flat for a week and yet they're still adding 2,500 cases a day and THAT is not good news.
If you're talking about the total reported claims curve, then it has absolutely not flattened.
Signs of success:
1) Flattening the total claims curve.
2) DECREASING the daily claims curve. (significantly)
People trying to say that flattening the daily claims curve is doing a decent job are HURTING the situation by pushing false, often politically motivated narrative.
So you're proposing putting violators in jail while they are emptying out jails, makes no sense.
People need to be responsible, the government isn't going to be able to take more severe action unless we use the India model. Other states are far behind NY and anyone that believes they wont end up the same is kidding themselves.
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