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Old 04-05-2020, 12:49 PM
 
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I am Army, not Navy so I don’t want to say that I know Navy SOP.

when I was in Iraq, the operational status for the vehicles and troop strength in my company are classified info. That’s just the company level with a dozen of vehicles and 90-100 men.

But for a $4.5 billion dollars warship + 5000 sailors and marines, you can read their operational status from San Francisco Tribune? There is something wrong with that
Ship movement and the info are an interesting thing. The movements are generically assigned "secret" to them, and only the authority at the squadron, group, etc (forget exactly), can change such classification. This is where you get the press releases and hometown stuff about "such and such ship deploys soon for its six month Gulf cruise", or "such and such ship begins its 16 month refueling and overhaul at the ship yard".

But the interesting thing is the information fed to dependents, and has always been a bit of a not addressed thing back when I was in. Like we would know when we were pulling into Hawaii, dependents want to fly out and meet for the week. They do not have clearance to know this of course, but exact days would come through the ombudsman as the exact time approached. So about a week out, subject to change, the ombudsman would let the dependents know, and of course that got out to the non-legal dependents like girlfriends.

But ultimately, the official stuff did go through the ombudsman officially.
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Old 04-05-2020, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Cali
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Only people whose religion is political partisan politics cares about the Senate voting on the Service Secretary. The military is made up of people trained to move up steps as "acting" because the higher ranking guy got taken out either relived for poor performance or the enemy getting lucky and taking out the CO.
Exactly.

If servicemembers have a hard time taking order from an "acting" superior, then they will have a harder time taking order from a 22 year-old inexperienced LT fresh out of West Point, or taking order from a female superior if you are a sexist, or taking order from a jewish superior of you are anti-semitic, and so on so forth.

Don't have to like and adore the person in charge, but respect the rank & position. That is what professionals do.
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Old 04-05-2020, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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The former captain has just tested positive for coronavirus.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/05/polit...avy/index.html
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Old 04-05-2020, 01:15 PM
 
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Yep, the person under you suppose to know how to do your job about p[perfectly, and you are suppose to know the person's above you job about perfectly as well, be able to jump in when needed. Even a simply medical event can cause say the E6 having to take the operational role (not admin role) of the Chief when at sea.

My civilian career has found hardly anyone knows this concept, and those who did serve have all but given up it seems as well, including me, and trying it. The people below you have zero motivation except those who want to advance, the people above you do not want you to know because that is outside your job responsibilities, and you may be a threat to their jobs. When a person leaves, the same ole "now what?" comes each time as they scramble to hire/promote someone and get them trained up on what to do.
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Old 04-05-2020, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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The former captain has just tested positive for coronavirus.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/05/polit...avy/index.html
Holy hell. That make the navy brass look even worse.
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Old 04-05-2020, 01:32 PM
 
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The former captain has just tested positive for coronavirus.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/05/polit...avy/index.html
Perhaps the problem will take care of itself then.
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Old 04-05-2020, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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How are we any different than Communist Soviet Union?
When one of their subs was in distress, the captain sent out a plea for help and the Soviets let all perish in order to save face. We chastised them for that.
If you think Naval leadership was just going to let 5000 sailors perish, you are deluded.
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Old 04-05-2020, 02:27 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Storm-n Norman is leadership that you can count on. Were are the Officers in that class.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGfrMzqNZqc

Last edited by OpinionExperience; 04-05-2020 at 02:37 PM..
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Old 04-05-2020, 04:58 PM
 
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Honesty is not your strength, apparently.
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Old 04-05-2020, 09:35 PM
 
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Honesty is not your strength, apparently.
That is exactly the way it should be seen. Gallagher is a war criminal. Crozier is a hero.
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