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Old 04-07-2020, 09:41 AM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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Why do you say that?

 
Old 04-07-2020, 09:54 AM
 
Location: In a George Strait Song
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Originally Posted by Suzanne Sugarbaker View Post
Better than dead.
Why is everyone so scared of dying?

I realize that young people should have a strong desire to live, but overall I see so many comments about how we can't let anyone die. To me it seems that there are things worse than death.
 
Old 04-07-2020, 10:01 AM
 
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Why do you say that?
The models were wrong about the impact of this virus. Deaths are inflated. In NY, more people being discharged than admitted. Granted, more hot-spots may come up, but remember, the surgeon general just told us this week was our Pearl Harbor moment. Now it's just Tuesday and now he says more people will die from smoking this year than CV. It's getting close to the point where the cure is worse than the disease.

We have to get our economy going.
 
Old 04-07-2020, 10:22 AM
 
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The models were wrong about the impact of this virus. Deaths are inflated. In NY, more people being discharged than admitted. Granted, more hot-spots may come up, but remember, the surgeon general just told us this week was our Pearl Harbor moment. Now it's just Tuesday and now he says more people will die from smoking this year than CV. It's getting close to the point where the cure is worse than the disease.

We have to get our economy going.
Things are not as they appear to be on the surface right now.
 
Old 04-07-2020, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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The models were wrong about the impact of this virus. Deaths are inflated. In NY, more people being discharged than admitted. Granted, more hot-spots may come up, but remember, the surgeon general just told us this week was our Pearl Harbor moment. Now it's just Tuesday and now he says more people will die from smoking this year than CV. It's getting close to the point where the cure is worse than the disease.

We have to get our economy going.
No snark here, just discussion. But what sectors do you recommend "reopening"?

To be honest, I continue to contribute to the economy and thank the Lord I am still working and producing.

I think that things that encourage inordinately large groups of people need to remain canceled this year. Events that pull in international travelers need to remain canceled as well. It's a bitter pill to swallow, especially since two huge events in my town brought in so much money and their cancellations resulted in a lot of hurt. My husband had just signed up with a company whose bread and butter is large events and his onboarding has been delayed until ???. I am glad that the offer hasn't been rescinded. I'm in the legal industry, and we are feeling the pinch because many of our clients are directly impacted. Already got the "prepare for sacrifices" memo. But I'm employed, which I am grateful for.

Telecommuting should remain on the table for employees in the foreseeable future.

As for us, we're trying to make lemons out of lemonade. As I've expressed upthread, I really value this family time. We bought a house that we didn't really get to enjoy. Our old dog likes that he is not alone ten hours a day. It's just a shame that a sucky situation caused us to "press pause" in our lives.
 
Old 04-07-2020, 10:32 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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Looks like we might be getting closer to this goal today.
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Why do you say that?
The New York State Courts have set up virtual hearings for all "essential" matters. Starting April 13, 2020 the judges are "encouraged" to decide non-essential matters on submission of papers. First hints of reopening.
 
Old 04-07-2020, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Heidelberg, Germany
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Why is everyone so scared of dying?

I realize that young people should have a strong desire to live, but overall I see so many comments about how we can't let anyone die. To me it seems that there are things worse than death.
I just lost a former co-worker to the virus. He was a healthy 53 year old airline pilot. Tell his two young kids that their father's death is not that big of a deal
 
Old 04-07-2020, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Rochester, WA
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No snark here, just discussion. But what sectors do you recommend "reopening"?
I haven't read the whole thread, just been thinking about this the last few days, and I think the right 'way' to open things up might be based on risk and contact, more than judgments about how 'vital' it is. Because every business is vital to the people it supports. "Vitalness" isn't a good measure of safety.

Jobs like construction, road maintenance (I'd love to be able to get our spring road work done and fix our pot-holes!) yard work... Those can be done pretty safely. Perhaps it's too soon to open hair salons.... and so on. There will be lots of debate and hard calls but I think it might make more sense to go through on a more case by case basis at first than a geographic sectoring.
 
Old 04-07-2020, 10:40 AM
 
Location: In a George Strait Song
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I just lost a former co-worker to the virus. He was a healthy 53 year old airline pilot. Tell his two young kids that their father's death is not that big of a deal
I didn't say it wasn't a big deal. I didn't say it's a good thing. I asked why people are scared to die. That's not the same thing.

I'm sorry for the loss of your friend.
 
Old 04-07-2020, 10:43 AM
 
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I just lost a former co-worker to the virus. He was a healthy 53 year old airline pilot. Tell his two young kids that their father's death is not that big of a deal
I think she means there is always going to be risk in the world. There's a limit to how long a world can be on lockdown, especially since most of those tested SARS-CoV-2 positive are asymptomatic and were for some time. This isn't a bee colony.
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