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Old 04-12-2020, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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In the county I work in, and in the one I live it, we've had about 45 cases total, no fatalities, and I believe a total of 3 hospital admissions-most (maybe all) of whom have now been released. Our hospitals are hurting financially-all elective procedures are shut down. I have a friend that was supposed to have his gallbladder removed a few weeks ago-he can't get it done.

The biggest issue we have...is a whole bunch of unemployed people.
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Old 04-12-2020, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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I'm in Massachusetts. Population slightly under 7 million. Hospitals are overwhelmed. Several entertainment venues are now field hospitals.

Confirmed;
25,475

Recovered;
4,316

Deaths;
756
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Old 04-12-2020, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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That is not true.

The percent of positives out of total tests (about 6,900) done on 4/8 was 18.2%.
It was also:
8% on 4/9
13% on 4/10
11% on 4/11

Those are DAILY figures. Not cumulative. And FL daily rate of positive test result has remained pretty steady at about 11-12%, since the first tests were given.

https://floridadisaster.org/globalas...04-12-1637.pdf

I can only quote what I read -


https://fdoh.maps.arcgis.com/apps/op...2a615dc7837c86
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Old 04-13-2020, 02:01 AM
 
Location: western East Roman Empire
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▪ Miami-Dade: Another 232 confirmed cases puts the total number at 7,058, with 538 hospitalizations and 97 deaths, a 1.4% mortality rate. There’s a 18.2% positive rate on 38,876 tests.

▪ Broward: There were 80 more cases, three more hospitalizations and no new deaths reported, leaving those totals at, respectively, 2,945, 436 and 76, with a 2.6% mortality rate. The positive rate on 24,387 tests is 12.1%.
True, but the three southern Florida counties were among the first in the US to order some of the tightest restrictions with the result that the curve has been flat after a relatively brief initial surge and hospitals are not overwhelmed, consistently showing around 35% excess bed due to patient turnover: the total number of cases and hospitalizations are not all once, precisely what the lock-down measures are designed to achieve.

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The hospitals are not overwhelmed currently really anywhere outside NY because everyone else saw the horror show going on there and collectively decided they wanted to avoid that.
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The idea is to NOT have medical centers overwhelmed or have people die needlessly. These measures are there for a reason.
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Having said that, even linear growth in new cases is not good and lock-down measures by themselves are not going to resolve the issue.

While actual deaths are certainly bad, mortality rates are based on the fact that testing, antigen testing, almost everywhere, is still reserved for people already with advanced symptoms; if we ever have mass antibody testing, the mortality rates may prove to be much lower. Perhaps a consolation prize, but then what?

For important as social distancing, antigen testing and antibody testing are, by themselves they won't solve the problem which also requires a set of effective treatments, which in turn requires hospital capacity (beds, personnel, personnel protection equipment, medicines, machines) and eventually a vaccine that would prevent or annual shot that would mitigate the effects, like flu shots supposedly do.

Moreover, solving the problem in the long run would require a reorganization of trade, industrial, migration and border security policies.

If all of that does not happen in tandem, it's going to be a dark age (in some respects it already is).

So what? There have been dark ages before, self-inflicted or not, and humans survived.

Good Luck!

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Old 04-13-2020, 02:21 AM
 
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In my county of 1.1 million, as of two days ago, we had 900 cases (so less than 1/10th of 1%) and 12 deaths (slightly more than 1% of the cases). Put in perspective, it is extremely rare.
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Old 04-13-2020, 05:14 AM
 
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You posted that the entire state of Florida has an 18.2% positive test rate. It doesn't. You misread the statistic.

That was the percent of positive tests from 1 day (April 8). The number is correct only for April 8. Not the cumulative total of all testing, which is MUCH lower.
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Old 04-13-2020, 06:16 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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The hospitals are not overwhelmed currently really anywhere outside NY because everyone else saw the horror show going on there and collectively decided they wanted to avoid that.
Tell that to all the hospital workers in the metro Detroit area.

https://www.wxyz.com/news/coronaviru...-from-covid-19

https://www.modernhealthcare.com/hos...ected-covid-19

https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/det...shift-hospital

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexand.../#8d848604121d
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Old 04-13-2020, 06:18 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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We have many cases. Last I checked it was over 60k with over 2000 dead. Two cops in their 30s died last week. Hospitals are busy but managing. We have several “pop up” hospitals being set up to help with volume.
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Old 04-13-2020, 07:22 AM
 
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Question. Where do you find the number of Covid patients in the hospital. Does the recovered statistic actually mean those people were hospitalized?

So my county 84 confirmed cases, 16 recovered. There were 5 patients in the local hospital according to a news article 4/7. The hospital has laid off 400 employees.

State wide 5,308 confirmed, 1,504 recovered and 101 deaths.
Many of those were nursing home patients.
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Old 04-13-2020, 07:47 AM
 
Location: western East Roman Empire
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Question. Where do you find the number of Covid patients in the hospital. Does the recovered statistic actually mean those people were hospitalized?

So my county 84 confirmed cases, 16 recovered. There were 5 patients in the local hospital according to a news article 4/7. The hospital has laid off 400 employees.

State wide 5,308 confirmed, 1,504 recovered and 101 deaths.
Many of those were nursing home patients.
First try to find your county's and your State's department of health website. There may also be a local newspaper that copies and publishes that information.

One poster even found such information on a Twitter feed of a member of the county board.

The last thing you ever want to do for information and data is consult national massbackwards hysteria media.
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