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Old 04-08-2020, 10:20 AM
 
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seriously if we don't learn that China is what the democrats have been trying to convince us that Russia is.... we are idiots.


China is the big bad wolf. they want to destroy us. we need to take note.


Not one single thing needs to be made in china.
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Old 04-08-2020, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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seriously if we don't learn that China is what the democrats have been trying to convince us that Russia is.... we are idiots.


China is the big bad wolf. they want to destroy us. we need to take note.


Not one single thing needs to be made in china.

Agree in theory, but who will buy our DEBT?
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Old 04-08-2020, 10:24 AM
 
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Agree in theory, but who will buy our DEBT?
yet another very good reason to do this... .might force us to not have so much?
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Old 04-08-2020, 10:26 AM
 
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Agree in theory, but who will buy our DEBT?
at this point, i see China as such a villain, that i would not oppose the US offering up as punishment to China for all this chaos, that we simply default on all debt held by China.


charge them an equivalent debt to the debt they hold and sever our economic connections.
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Old 04-08-2020, 10:37 AM
 
Location: King County, WA
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It is funny that the Republicans have been promoting commercial linkages with China for years. Now suddenly they've done a 180. It's always been the Democrats who have been in favor of protecting jobs at home. Now, seemingly, they want the opposite. At least they do if you listen to the right-wing commentary.
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Old 04-08-2020, 10:45 AM
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Location: North Pacific
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Agree in theory, but who will buy our DEBT?
China bought u.s. debt years ago ...

Why China Buys U.S. Debt With Treasury Bonds

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at this point, i see China as such a villain, that i would not oppose the US offering up as punishment to China for all this chaos, that we simply default on all debt held by China.


charge them an equivalent debt to the debt they hold and sever our economic connections.
The u.s. government borrows money from other nations, China included ... always have.
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Old 04-08-2020, 10:48 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Basically, we need to cut off our relationship with China right here and now. China is no friend of the United States. They are at least as bad as the old Soviet Union.

This is the end of the road.
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Old 04-08-2020, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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Medicare is pricey for seniors. They pay premiums each month which are deducted from their SS checks, and their copays are 20%. Also, prescriptions aren't covered unless seniors buy a supplemental private insurance policy.
$144 Medicare A (hospital)
43 Medigap (doctors, labs and copays)
77 Drug Plan
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$264 per month for one person

That is not pricey. How much are working people paying? Plus the amount their employers kick in?
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Old 04-08-2020, 11:00 AM
 
Location: USA
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1) Universal healthcare, like every other first world country. No more mass layoffs causing millions to lose healthcare when they need it most.

2) No more hand-shaking, only bowing. The Japanese got it right a long time ago.

3) No more condiment containers on restaurant tables (touched by everyone, while eating). Gross! Packets only.

4) Hand sanitizer at the entrance / exit of every public building.

5) Does the gas station really need my zip code?
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Old 04-08-2020, 11:05 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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$144 Medicare A (hospital)
43 Medigap (doctors, labs and copays)
77 Drug Plan
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$264 per month for one person

That is not pricey. How much are working people paying? Plus the amount their employers kick in?
$264/month isn't pricey? That's over $3,000/year. Create a sign up list and see how many people without health insurance will pay $3,000+ per year per person for health insurance. That's $9,000+/year for a Mom and 2 kids.
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