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Old 04-07-2020, 10:04 AM
 
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Yes we have.

We can't get over the fact that once told about the epidemic and the high risk-- Trump assured us we have 15 cases and it is under control.

You can't erase all the stupid statements in the weeks leading up to today -- including -- by Easter we'll all be in church.
Trumps hardcore base is okay with people dying as long as they are able to make money off it.

 
Old 04-07-2020, 10:05 AM
 
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Trumps hardcore base is okay with people dying as long as they are able to make money off it.
Total BS. I would say democrats are OK with people dying unless they get some money for the Kennedy Center.
 
Old 04-07-2020, 10:07 AM
 
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But what if Bobby wasn't told there was a test by the teacher until he was sitting in his chair? Everyone fails. Democrats were handing out impeachment pens, the WHO was parroting Chinese lies, and even Dr Birx said they were waiting on reliable information.

There is ZERO case for negligence. Zero. There's nothing for leftists but useless bleating to make themselves feel better.
This thread isn't about Democrats. This thread is about the absurd claim that Trump is personally responsible for saving "millions of lives" which, of course, is a ridiculous proposition without so much as a toe dipped into the pool of veracity. When someone on the left starts a thread crediting Nancy Pelosi or Bill de Blasio for "saving millions of lives" I will be the first to point out the absurdity of those claims as well.
 
Old 04-07-2020, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Sounds like a good response to me. But I'm glad I don't live in IL. Cook county crooks have ruined the state's finances in the long term and they are going to continue to tax the state residents to death while lobbying Washington behind the scenes in hopes that the nation will pay for their outlandish mistakes and promises.
States cannot bankrupt because state can increase taxes and cut costs.

Of the 41 states that impose state income tax, Illinois ranks in 33rd place in terms of tax rate, highest to lowest. The state does not tax retirement income.

The state, counties, municipalities and school districts agreed to pension terms and then kicked the can to fund them and have been doing so for decades. It has not mattered if the governor was Republican or Democrat.

Unlike most states, Illinois is one of seven with a state constitution that guarantees accrued pension benefits in place on the date of hire.

Not likely any Congress or POTUS will ever agree to directly bailing out a state, any state pension system.
 
Old 04-07-2020, 10:39 AM
 
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This thread isn't about Democrats. This thread is about the absurd claim that Trump is personally responsible for saving "millions of lives" which, of course, is a ridiculous proposition without so much as a toe dipped into the pool of veracity. When someone on the left starts a thread crediting Nancy Pelosi or Bill de Blasio for "saving millions of lives" I will be the first to point out the absurdity of those claims as well.
Wrong. Your poor reading comprehension shows up once again. This thread makes a statement about the validity of the models that leftists argued were absolutely beyond reproach. So if you believed the earlier stats of millions dead or hundreds of thousands dead, then the deviation between the current reality and the modeled predictions can be attributed to actions taken by Trump and his administration combined with the synergy of actions taken by state and local governments. Trump had a positive impact on pandemic response and his interest in the malaria drug will likely save thousands more. It fixed one democrat in MI. Not only did the dosing stop the CV, it also managed to take out any Trump derangement virus that she may have previously had.
 
Old 04-07-2020, 10:40 AM
 
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Did Trump save your life, OP? Can you explain how you’d be dead by now if not for the mighty Don?
 
Old 04-07-2020, 11:03 AM
 
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Wrong. Your poor reading comprehension shows up once again. This thread makes a statement about the validity of the models that leftists argued were absolutely beyond reproach. So if you believed the earlier stats of millions dead or hundreds of thousands dead, then the deviation between the current reality and the modeled predictions can be attributed to actions taken by Trump and his administration combined with the synergy of actions taken by state and local governments. Trump had a positive impact on pandemic response and his interest in the malaria drug will likely save thousands more. It fixed one democrat in MI. Not only did the dosing stop the CV, it also managed to take out any Trump derangement virus that she may have previously had.
To what "actions taken by Trump" are you referring? Mentioning a drug on TV (that might or might not work) that he had nothing to do with?

He told the States and localities to go deal with it on their own. I don't give him much credit for their successes in that regard.
 
Old 04-07-2020, 11:06 AM
 
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If has done such a great job then why is he complaining endlessly and attacking people? Why is Illinois in bad shape with this virus? All he has done since taking over is tax us to death! Gas taxes and other taxes and raised the price of a little car sticker to an insane price!

What is he doing with all of that money? Why doesnt he use all of that money he steals from us to now help us? And isnt he still under investigation for other crimes? He will join those others in prison soon. No wonder every year Illinois loses more people than any other state in America. And the whole world laughs at us!
I am neutral on the topic of any relatively recent Illinois Governor. They all have been dealt a tough hand.

Pritzker, like recent predecessors, inherited a pension crisis. States cannot bankrupt because they can increase taxes and cut costs. Illinois is one of seven states with a constitution that guarantee accrued pension benefits. Unlike say, neighboring Wisconsin, Illinois cannot change accrued pension benefits.

Illinois is in no better or worse shape regarding the virus than any other state with a substantial and concentrated population. No city, state, or country was/ is prepared for a once in a 100 year global pandemic.
We know the Covid 19 train has started to roll.

Illinois is an emerging hot zone. Squeaky wheels get oiled.
 
Old 04-07-2020, 11:15 AM
 
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But what if Bobby wasn't told there was a test by the teacher until he was sitting in his chair? Everyone fails. Democrats were handing out impeachment pens, the WHO was parroting Chinese lies, and even Dr Birx said they were waiting on reliable information.

There is ZERO case for negligence. Zero. There's nothing for leftists but useless bleating to make themselves feel better.
The impeachment thing is an excuse. Trump was never going to testify.

There are 2 million federal employees most of whom do not turnover with Admins. Every Admin has access to global intelligence.

The chronic turnover within Trump’s Admin likely contributed to a failure to focus. Or perhaps escalate.

We all watched news clips and videos of Wuhan, then Northern Italy and assumed it could not happen, be that bad, here. And here we are.
 
Old 04-07-2020, 11:19 AM
 
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Yes, Trump is a bar-room loudmouth that gets things done. His instincts are not perfect, but he takes action and gets results in the face of withering, non-stop criticism from a group of jilted, scorned, political eunuchs.

And you're right, Trump DID NOT create Corona. The Chinese did. That's where the buck stops. That virus came from a bat that is not indigenous to Wuhan but was used for experiments at their Wuhan labs. I believe the virus leaked out because of their lax containment protocols. All deaths are on them. Every one.
No one knows with certainty the source of this particular Corona virus.

No one knows with certainty what China knew and when.

Once the dust settles there will be an eternity to sort it out.
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