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Maybe this is why the liberal media is doing everything they can to make people not consider that malaria drug that Trump keeps talking about. Granted Trump is not a medical expert so he probably should be careful on how he talks about it. But if the death toll went down because of this drug then things would look better instead of a crazy increase of death.
one thing I will point out- is there is a large number of patients are dying from heart attacks. They are saying that the hearts are getting wrecked by the virus, more than the lungs .
"initial study found cardiac damage in as many as 1 in 5 patients, leading to heart failure and death even among those who show no signs of respiratory distress"
There will never be accurate statistics for this virus. Never.
It's not even remotely possible to be accurate.
The CDC can't even accurately determine how many people die of influenza each year. Why would they be able to tell how many people died of COVID-19?
For the 2018-2019 Flu Season, the CDC estimated 26,339 to 52,664 deaths, but reported 34,157 as the number of deaths.
The tests aren't even accurate:
The current report describes the advantages and disadvantages of two of the most common influenza tests, RIDT and NAAT. In this study, NAAT was chosen as the gold standard. RIDT revealed an overall very weak test performance, even during the peak of the influenza seasons where the test performance should have been the highest.
Not only that, but the age of the patient is a huge factor:
The BD Veritor system's sensitivity for children less than 2 years of age was 85.7%, compared to 60.3% for children and adults between 2 and 39 years, and 33.3% for adults aged ≥ 40 years. This may be due to the fact that there is an inversely proportional relationship between the amount of virus shedding and the age of the patient.
It's no different for COVID-19 tests.
While flu season is officially over, I'm sure a lot of influenza deaths were reported as COVID-19 deaths.
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We know COVID-19 death stats are going to be inflated. It's just that simple. Like the surgeon general said, more people are going to die from smoking this year than CV.
But, of course, they are.
The more deaths you have the more money your State gets. It's in a State's best interest to inflate the numbers to qualify for disaster relief.
We know COVID-19 death stats are going to be inflated. It's just that simple.
It's the opposite. We know COVID-19 death stats are under-reported, especially in the early weeks due to lack of testing. Many death certs say "respiratory failure" or "pneumonia" when in fact they really had COVID-19. And today many people are dying at home today who never got a COVID-19 test. They aren't in the official body count either.
This has never happened before in modern history. Sure, people die all the time. And some who are corona positive might have died for other reasons. But what we have seen in Northern Italy, Spain, New York etc is so far from normal that it should be obvious to anyone with even half a brain.
So please stop implying that the virus isn't that big of a deal. Keep in mind, what we are seeing is despite all the efforts in place to slow the pandemic. I can't begin to imagine what it would look like if we did not have these measures in place.
I'm a bit cranky as I just learned a former coworker of mine has died at age 53 from the virus. An otherwise healthy airline pilot with no underlying conditions with two young kids.
Western Journal is no better than info wars or zero hedge. If you want to know what the CDC guidelines are, here's the full text of the memo (I have highlighted in red the relevant paragraphs) :
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COVID-19 Alert No. 2
March 24, 2020
New ICD code introduced for COVID-19 deaths
This email is to alert you that a newly-introduced ICD code has been implemented to accurately capture mortality data for Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) on death certificates.
Please read carefully and forward this email to the state statistical staff in your office who are involved in the preparation of mortality data, as well as others who may receive questions when the data are released.
What is the new code?
The new ICD code for Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) is U07.1, and below is how it will appear in formal tabular list format.
U07.1 COVID-19
Excludes: Coronavirus infection, unspecified site (B34.2)
Severe acute respiratory syndrome [SARS], unspecified (U04.9)
The WHO has provided a second code, U07.2, for clinical or epidemiological diagnosis of COVID-19 where a
laboratory confirmation is inconclusive or not available. Because laboratory test results are not typically
reported on death certificates in the U.S., NCHS is not planning to implement U07.2 for mortality statistics.
When will it be implemented?
Immediately.
Will COVID-19 be the underlying cause?
The underlying cause depends upon what and where conditions are reported on the death certificate.
However, the rules for coding and selection of the underlying cause of death are expected to result in COVID19 being the underlying cause more often than not.
What happens if certifiers report terms other than the suggested terms?
If a death certificate reports coronavirus without identifying a specific strain or explicitly specifying that it is not COVID-19, NCHS will ask the states to follow up to verify whether or not the coronavirus was COVID-19.
As long as the phrase used indicates the 2019 coronavirus strain, NCHS expects to assign the new code.
However, it is preferable and more straightforward for certifiers to use the standard terminology (COVID-19).
What happens if the terms reported on the death certificate indicate uncertainty?
If the death certificate reports terms such as “probable COVID-19” or “likely COVID-19,” these terms would be assigned the new ICD code. It Is not likely that NCHS will follow up on these cases.
If “pending COVID-19 testing” is reported on the death certificate, this would be considered a pending record. In this scenario, NCHS would expect to receive an updated record, since the code will likely result in R99. In this case, NCHS will ask the states to follow up to verify if test results confirmed that the decedent had COVID19.
Do I need to make any changes at the jurisdictional level to accommodate the new ICD code?
Not necessarily, but you will want to confirm that your systems and programs do not behave as if U07.1 is an unknown code.
Should “COVID-19” be reported on the death certificate only with a confirmed test?
COVID-19 should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or is
assumed to have caused or contributed to death. Certifiers should include as much detail as possible based
on their knowledge of the case, medical records, laboratory testing, etc. If the decedent had other chronic
conditions such as COPD or asthma that may have also contributed, these conditions can be reported in Part II.
Telling certifiers to "include as much detail as possible based on their knowledge of the case, medical records, laboratory testing, etc." is hardly a blanket rule encouraging hospitals to just lump all deaths in with COVID19.
Please stop spreading crazy rumors and unfounded sensationalist claims in these difficult times.
I've had a problem with the main test they're using to detect this thing. The PCR test looks for specific DNA. Since this new thing is part of a family of virus that include the common cold, how do we know that the test is specific enough to look at this new supposedly highly infectious one? Has any independent lab confirmed this, or does everyone just copy what the first "test" does?
Yes, the PCR test has been checked to insure it doesn't cross-react with the four endemic human coronaviruses. It's amplifying RNA sequences that SARS-CoV-2 has but the endemic human coronavirus strains lack.
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