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Old 04-08-2020, 10:39 PM
 
Location: North Pacific
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Why has this virus largely ignored Mexico? Mexico City is huge, with a metro area of some 21 million people. Much of the city consists of slums, with people living in squalor, crammed into cardboard boxes, scrap metal and whatever else they can find. And the city is the international hub of the country. It's not conceivable that some significant number of infected people didn't make it into the city via international travel. And conditions are ripe for rapid spread. Yet their infection rate is 25/million people-while ours is over 1300.

It was speculated that the rapid spread in NYC was due to population density, mass transit and international travel. If that were true-Mexico City should be worse. I'd wonder if the virus didn't spread well in hot weather, but NOLA and Miami indicate differently.

So-what's the difference? I haven't read of Mexico imposing any mandatory lockdown or other drastic measures.
idk ... but maybe Jalapeno peppers, in one's diet.
btw: Germany doesn't have high numbers either ...
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Old 04-08-2020, 10:53 PM
 
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I'm not buying it. Mexico is a major trading partner with China. China routes a lot of product bound to the US through Mexico to take advantage of NAFTA. I'm sure the don't have the travel that NYC does, but it can't be insignificant. And while travelers may not be hitting the ski slopes in Mexico, they are hitting the beaches.
Being a major trade partner does not equal a major tourist hub. You said ti yourself "products".

Most visitors to Mexico are from the US and Canada.
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Old 04-08-2020, 10:56 PM
 
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Visitors don't have lots of social contacts with locals and are inefficient spreaders.

Efficient spreaders are those who got the virus in foreign countries and then came back home.
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Old 04-09-2020, 06:59 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Visitors don't have lots of social contacts with locals and are inefficient spreaders.

Efficient spreaders are those who got the virus in foreign countries and then came back home.
So no Mexicans ever go home after they visit a foreign nation? Granted-if you look at our illegal population, that is believable-but there are plenty of other Mexican citizens that travel for both work or pleasure to foreign nations-just like Americans do.
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Old 04-09-2020, 08:05 AM
 
Location: King County, WA
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Virus propagation is somewhat random; some nations will be heavily hit while others don't get many cases. Some nations are getting hit later in the game.
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Old 04-09-2020, 11:21 AM
 
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So no Mexicans ever go home after they visit a foreign nation? Granted-if you look at our illegal population, that is believable-but there are plenty of other Mexican citizens that travel for both work or pleasure to foreign nations-just like Americans do.
No one ever said they did not travel, however, as mentioned, most visitors to Mexico are from the US and Canada, two countries at the time where the virus was not prolific, and the number of Mexicans traveling abroad, especially to the hot spot areas when this started, is very few.

Look at Italy's tourist numbers, Mexico places number 29 for number of arrivals to Italy, and that is 350k, now compare that to the US at 5.6 million, and you can see from even that one data point why the US was far more prone to being infected from Italy than Mexico was.
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Old 04-09-2020, 12:09 PM
 
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We were talking about this in the morning actually. Who knows?
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Old 04-10-2020, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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I may have spoken too soon-looks like Mexico might be hitting the exponential growth curve (though overall numbers are low).

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...ountry/mexico/
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Old 04-10-2020, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Being a major trade partner does not equal a major tourist hub. You said ti yourself "products".

Most visitors to Mexico are from the US and Canada.
no many are from Europe... Germans- French LOVE -Mexico, but mexico like the Mid west is big and empty only a few cities are crowded. They are mostly shut down.
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Old 04-10-2020, 02:58 PM
 
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Why has this virus largely ignored Mexico? Mexico City is huge, with a metro area of some 21 million people. Much of the city consists of slums, with people living in squalor, crammed into cardboard boxes, scrap metal and whatever else they can find. And the city is the international hub of the country. It's not conceivable that some significant number of infected people didn't make it into the city via international travel. And conditions are ripe for rapid spread. Yet their infection rate is 25/million people-while ours is over 1300.

It was speculated that the rapid spread in NYC was due to population density, mass transit and international travel. If that were true-Mexico City should be worse. I'd wonder if the virus didn't spread well in hot weather, but NOLA and Miami indicate differently.

So-what's the difference? I haven't read of Mexico imposing any mandatory lockdown or other drastic measures.
You have obviously never been to Mexico City. People do not live in "cardboard boxes or scrap metal".
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