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Old 04-09-2020, 11:01 AM
 
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I read an article yesterday that said we would be dealing with active infections until August. How that would affect businesses opening is a question. Should we risk opening up the economy while the infection is still raging? If so, at what point?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/08/polit...l-8/index.html

 
Old 04-09-2020, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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So the REAL unemployment rate is likely 20% or higher
 
Old 04-09-2020, 11:15 AM
 
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I am just wondering if someone is diagnosed with cancer, do they go and get advice from their elected representative on what should be done? Or do they get advice from a doctor on what should be done?
 
Old 04-09-2020, 11:16 AM
 
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I am just wondering if someone is diagnosed with cancer, do they go and get advice from their elected representative on what should be done? Or do they get advice from a doctor on what should be done?
It depends on whether or not you are a Trump cultist.
 
Old 04-09-2020, 11:17 AM
 
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Trump responded terribly but he's handling it now with the help of others. I wish he would stop promoting the anti malarial drug until they did more thests though. But now, we have a responsibility to stay at home, all the time. That's all I can think of. The unemployment rate will continue to go up. Everyone needs income no matter what so that's up to the government to work together and fix it. We can't do it ourselves.
Scoob, doctors all over the country are using the zinc/hydroxychloroquine clinical protocol with strikingly successful results, seeing improvement in some cases within hours.


"What we're finding clinically with our patients is that it really works only in conjunction with zinc. So the hydroxychloroquine opens the zinc channel, zinc goes into the cell, it then blocks the replication of the cellular machinery.

"So it has to be used in conjunction with zinc."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVs_EWVCVPc
 
Old 04-09-2020, 11:32 AM
 
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Let's keep this simple, shall we?

If my life is economically ruined, but I'm not dead - am I really doing all that well? If instead I die, then I don't have to worry about the economy, do I?

The problem isn't in listening to medical experts, or in not listening to medical experts. The experts probably are not wrong in their predictions of a worst-case scenario, for loss of life.

What is wrong is in assuming that avoiding loss of life is so absolutely pivotal, that nothing else matters.
 
Old 04-09-2020, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Shaker Heights, OH
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That's funny-keeping the economy alive and avoiding a recession is in my long-term interest. Not yours? Are you a Bernie supporter?

Concerning the UE rate-I actually find it surprising that it's only 13%. It was ~3% before CV. And it sure seems like more than 1 in 10 people are on government mandated layoff right now. At least among those I know. This would indicate that upwards of 90% of our workforce are "essential workers"? Doesn't seem likely.
Part of that is because many of us have not even been able to file unemployment yet...here in Ohio, I still can't get through on the phones to talk to them. They still haven't implemented the new rules from the stimulus for it either.
 
Old 04-09-2020, 11:38 AM
 
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Let's keep this simple, shall we?

If my life is economically ruined, but I'm not dead - am I really doing all that well? If instead I die, then I don't have to worry about the economy, do I?

The problem isn't in listening to medical experts, or in not listening to medical experts. The experts probably are not wrong in their predictions of a worst-case scenario, for loss of life.

What is wrong is in assuming that avoiding loss of life is so absolutely pivotal, that nothing else matters.
It is the loss of life in such huge numbers in a short time that was the issue.

A person is crazy if they think that would not have very severe economic consequences, far past what we are having now, which right now, we can bounce back from relatively easy.
 
Old 04-09-2020, 11:43 AM
 
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It is the loss of life in such huge numbers in a short time that was the issue.

A person is crazy if they think that would not have very severe economic consequences, far past what we are having now, which right now, we can bounce back from relatively easy.
The current shelter in place protocol is exacerbating the long term damage done to society and its economy. And it is also prolonging the life cycle of the virus.

You live in fear.
 
Old 04-09-2020, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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The current shelter in place protocol is exacerbating the long term damage done to society and its economy. And it is also prolonging the life cycle of the virus.

You live in fear.
The bolded is correct but was necessary.

If we had allowed all infections to progress at an unchecked rapid rate then it may have burned out quicker but would have overwhelmed the medical system and resulted in far more deaths since the illness caused by covid-19 is so bad that it requires hospitalization in ~20% of cases.
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