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Old 04-10-2020, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Really, that's what you meant when you said most of Europe. Ok, let it be so. Btw, I apologize for us being so many countries here. With each one having its own damn government and stuff. So we saw Italy and shat our collective pants and were scared into our wits enough to decide to observe the measures. At least most of us did. And we don't use the Trump drug.

What you call most of Europe is two weeks ahead of you in this calamity. It means 14 more of Trump sunrises and Trump sunsets.

What I mean is the Euro zone has about the same population as North America but 4 times more deaths from coronavirus than North America.
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Old 04-10-2020, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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Nah...our death toll is pretty bad. Embarrassing actually.

No way to put lipstick on this pig.
outside of NY/NJ, doing well.
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Old 04-10-2020, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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Gateway Pundit?

You’re offering that as more reliable than a government expert?!
while I wouldn't put a lot of weight on "anonymous sources" from ANY media, in this case the crux of the point is this:

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Dr. Scott Jensen, a Minnesota physician and Republican state senator, told a local station he received a 7-page document coaching him to fill out death certificates with a COVID-19 diagnosis without a lab test to confirm the patient actually had the virus.

Dr. Jensen also disclosed that hospitals are paid more if they list patients with a COVID-19 diagnosis.
And hospitals get paid THREE TIMES AS MUCH if the patient then goes on a ventilator.

Senator Dr. Scott Jensen: Right now Medicare is determining that if you have a COVID-19 admission to the hospital you get $13,000. If that COVID-19 patient goes on a ventilator you get $39,000, three times as much. Nobody can tell me after 35 years in the world of medicine that sometimes those kinds of things impact on what we do.
here's a video from a news station (not Laura Ingraham) showing the Doctor

https://twitter.com/chrisbergPOVNOW/...80994821509121
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Old 04-10-2020, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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How do you figure?
Well, money seems to be a motivating factor in your belief that hospitals are gaming death toll numbers from Covid-19.

In Canada's case, hospitals, many of which are non-profit or private, do not get extra money by body count of any disease.

So to solve your issue, looks like UHC is something you should take a look at.
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Old 04-10-2020, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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And lest we forget, this little bug seems to suddenly and unexpectedly flare up. Who could have imagined that New York City would be hit so fast and so hard, while the rest of the country wasn't??

Honestly, it's best to withhold judgement until the game has been fully played out.
Everyone should have assumed NYC, SF, and LA would have been hit the hardest. That's based on density - lots of close contact - and factors of poverty - poor health practices, low hygiene.
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Old 04-10-2020, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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Well, money seems to be a motivating factor in your belief that hospitals are gaming death toll numbers from Covid-19.

In Canada's case, hospitals, many of which are non-profit or private, do not get extra money by body count of any disease.

So to solve your issue, looks like UHC is something you should take a look at.
Canada pays the hospitals the same per patient, regardless of reason for hospitalization?
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Old 04-10-2020, 02:09 PM
 
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So far only 5% of Americans have recovered though, so why not focus on that instead of sensationalist headlines?
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Old 04-10-2020, 02:12 PM
 
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What I mean is the Euro zone has about the same population as North America but 4 times more deaths from coronavirus than North America.

Its socialized heath care in action.
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Old 04-10-2020, 02:23 PM
 
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Canada last census in 2016 showed that 1.77 million people in Canada identified as of being of Chinese descent.

NYC had 573,388 from 2014 numbers.
NYC is a city, Canada is a country. Apples and oranges. Or the Big Apple vs Maple Syrup.

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2010 United States Census, there are more than 3.3 million Chinese in the United States, about 1% of the total population. The influx continues, where each year ethnic Chinese people from the People's Republic of China, Taiwan and to a lesser extent Southeast Asia move to the United States, surpassing Hispanic and Latino immigration by 2012.
It is only the number of Chinese across the country. it is the density of their neighborhoods.
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Old 04-10-2020, 02:26 PM
 
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So far only 5% of Americans have recovered though, so why not focus on that instead of sensationalist headlines?
Because it's a useless stat. What does 'recovered' even mean in this context?
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