Do the governments' (federal, state, local) emergency powers need to be severely curtailed? (healthcare, ideology)

[rjshae]

Tough call. But sometimes governments need to react quickly to a disaster, so you can't afford to hamstring them too much.

[No_Recess]

Originally Posted by BBMW

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In this case you can vote them out, if there are enough of you in agreement.

The only people running are abusers. It's the nature of the beast.

[BBMW]

Yes, but we're seeing the flip side. Too much power with too little accountability.

Originally Posted by rjshae

Tough call. But sometimes governments need to react quickly to a disaster, so you can't afford to hamstring them too much.

[Roadking2003]

Originally Posted by BBMW

In the last several weeks we've seen government executives (governors, mayors) throughout the US invoke powers that no one thought they had, especially without concurrent legislative review, with devastating effect on the country. Businesses forced to close, personal travel restricted, etc.. Basically just short of martial law.

After the current crisis ends, should citizen demand that state legislatures revoke these powers as essentially being overly broad and uncalled for?

Yes, but governments never give up power voluntarily. A revolution is the only way to reduce their power.

[T0103E]

Originally Posted by Roadking2003

Yes, but governments never give up power voluntarily. A revolution is the only way to reduce their power.

That, or get enough people to ignore them...including law enforcement and military, hopefully.

[Frank DeForrest]

Originally Posted by T0103E

That, or get enough people to ignore them...including law enforcement and military, hopefully.

peaceful disobedience. Violent overthrow begets another violent regime.

[Wardendresden]

If Trump calls off the fall elections or makes any attempt to curtail voting, then I intend to follow this advice:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,
that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,
that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That
to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men,
deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.

He will then be running an unjust government and subject to the same conundrum the English found themselves in. Wasn't exactly peaceful though, was it?

[BBMW]

You do realize the federal government doesn't call or run the elections, and has no power to call them off. That power rests solely with the states.

Originally Posted by Wardendresden

If Trump calls off the fall elections or makes any attempt to curtail voting, then I intend to follow this advice:



He will then be running an unjust government and subject to the same conundrum the English found themselves in. Wasn't exactly peaceful though, was it?

[tinytrump]

Just remember. Curtailing the state opens more to the Feds. Let it all stay controlled separately.

[BBMW]

No, they don't

Originally Posted by rstevens62

No, I believe the Constitution and Bill of Rights REQUIRE citizens to stand up and take immediate action, if their govt attempts such tyrannical actions, even the use of force if necessary, is permitted under certain circumstances.