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Old 04-11-2020, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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How many people in 1999 vs 2020? As a percentage, what is the suicide rate rather than comparing number of suicides... More people = more suicides... It's called natural law. We also have more TV's, more cars, more houses than 1999...
You obviously didn't even bother to read the link. The 35% increase is per capita.
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Old 04-11-2020, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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How many people in 1999 vs 2020? As a percentage, what is the suicide rate rather than comparing number of suicides... More people = more suicides... It's called natural law. We also have more TV's, more cars, more houses than 1999...
Suicide rates scale by population.
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Old 04-11-2020, 05:55 PM
 
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Suicide rates scale by population.
You never answered why suicide rates are going up.
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Old 04-11-2020, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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24/7 bullying thanks to social media, failing middle class/economic hardship/homelessness, opioid epidemic, etc.

The most common cases of men in rural areas, almost entirely because of the economic issue of jobs drying up in rural areas thanks to automation and wealth concentration. Coupled with it not being considered manly to seek help.
No, this is not correct.

Bullying has fallen far below the levels it was in the 80s and 90s.

The opiod epidemic are an effect, not the cause.

Try again.
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Old 04-11-2020, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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You never answered why suicide rates are going up.
Very well.

It has nothing to do with school bullying as bullying as a cultural phenomenon died out after the 80s and 90s.

Opiods are an effect, not a cause. And people still have enough money for subsistence. Homelessness is about mental illness more than financial problems.

Here is the real answer: Mass media has globalized and nationalized our cultural output to such a degree that debt and consumption have replaced individual capacity as the foundation of our society.
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Old 04-11-2020, 06:13 PM
 
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Drugs. Including so called "soft recreational drugs".
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Old 04-11-2020, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Somewhere gray and damp, close to the West Coast
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Very well.

It has nothing to do with school bullying as bullying as a cultural phenomenon died out after the 80s and 90s.

Opiods are an effect, not a cause. And people still have enough money for subsistence. Homelessness is about mental illness more than financial problems.

Here is the real answer: Mass media has globalized and nationalized our cultural output to such a degree that debt and consumption have replaced individual capacity as the foundation of our society.
Good theory.
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Old 04-11-2020, 06:15 PM
 
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Very well.

It has nothing to do with school bullying as bullying as a cultural phenomenon died out after the 80s and 90s.

Opiods are an effect, not a cause. And people still have enough money for subsistence. Homelessness is about mental illness more than financial problems.

Here is the real answer: Mass media has globalized and nationalized our cultural output to such a degree that debt and consumption have replaced individual capacity as the foundation of our society.
The real answer. There isn’t just one answer.
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Old 04-11-2020, 06:22 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Drugs. Including so called "soft recreational drugs".
Nope, I feel more socially connected to people when I consume alcohol or weed, and that's true for most people. Those drugs are not a problem for the most part and do not usually lead to suicide except in hardcore addicts.

The drugs that are more of a problem are meth, heroin, crack, etc.
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Old 04-11-2020, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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The real answer. There isn’t just one answer.
People need to feel like they matter. They need to understand that their words and actions make a difference, and what they choose to be makes a difference.

When everything is contextualized on a national or global scale, there becomes a competitive universality to everything, as all accepted behavior is standardized by popular culture.

Some do rise to the standard of fame or importance on a national level, but they only can do so by trampling over others. That is not the foundation of a stable society.
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