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Old 04-11-2020, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Park City, UT
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Ironically, shutting down the economy has made it harder for hospitals to effectively fight the pandemic in the long-run...

Cash-starved hospitals and doctor groups cut staff amid pandemic
https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...094_story.html


Nice going U.S. government, just f*** everything up why don't ya?

We should have been doing what Sweden's been doing for the past month, keep everything open and everything going...

Sweden challenges Trump -- and scientific mainstream -- by refusing to lock down
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/10/europ...ntl/index.html
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Old 04-11-2020, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Funny isn't it? In most of the country, cases of Covid are minimal (none hospitalized in my county). Shutting down hospitals for all but Covid cases naturally leaves them with no income.
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Old 04-12-2020, 10:02 AM
 
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Funny isn't it? In most of the country, cases of Covid are minimal (none hospitalized in my county). Shutting down hospitals for all but Covid cases naturally leaves them with no income.
About the same with our area and facilities. The above was inevitable though due to sensible medical recommendations. We are simply learning as we go along, and caution so far has been deemed the best medical bet.

That being said, in a few weeks many low risk areas will probably start to unwind.
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Old 04-12-2020, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Omaha, Nebraska
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About the same with our area and facilities. The above was inevitable though due to sensible medical recommendations. We are simply learning as we go along, and caution so far has been deemed the best medical bet.

That being said, in a few weeks many low risk areas will probably start to unwind.
Exactly. I expect my area to start slowly increasing our numbers of non-emergent surgeries sometime in mid-to-late May, as our COVID-19 peak is predicted to be in late April/early May. Once we're sure we won't run out of PPE and beds, we won't need to keep the current restrictions in place. Then the hospital balance sheets will begin returning to normal.
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Old 04-12-2020, 11:13 AM
 
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Ironically, shutting down the economy has made it harder for hospitals to effectively fight the pandemic in the long-run...

Cash-starved hospitals and doctor groups cut staff amid pandemic
https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...094_story.html


Nice going U.S. government, just f*** everything up why don't ya?

We should have been doing what Sweden's been doing for the past month, keep everything open and everything going...

Sweden challenges Trump -- and scientific mainstream -- by refusing to lock down
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/10/europ...ntl/index.html
They are laying off nurses and staff in areas where there is no work.
Most of them are being redirected or able to apply for other positions.

A nurse working in a doctor's office is not so ready to work in an ICU. It isn't that easy to switch around.
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Old 04-12-2020, 01:38 PM
 
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Ironically, shutting down the economy has made it harder for hospitals to effectively fight the pandemic in the long-run...

Cash-starved hospitals and doctor groups cut staff amid pandemic
https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...094_story.html


Nice going U.S. government, just f*** everything up why don't ya?

We should have been doing what Sweden's been doing for the past month, keep everything open and everything going...

Sweden challenges Trump -- and scientific mainstream -- by refusing to lock down
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/10/europ...ntl/index.html
What we are experiencing is a compelling argument for a universal health care system.

This is what happens when you have a "for profit" healthcare "system". We have the MOST EXPENSIVE healthcare in the world, no one else is even close! But we have the 37th (and declining) in quality of care.

We have a medical system that does not serve the common good. In the US, 25% of all medical costs go to administration. The number of administrators in medicine have grown by approximately 2500% in the past decade, while physician numbers have increased by 100% in that same time period. Some administrators make many multiples in salary than any doctor or nurse in the country.

Meanwhile, the needed redundancy in the system for exactly this eventuality has been eliminated so that profits can be shoveled to investors and administrators. This is the result.

https://fee.org/articles/the-chart-t...thcare-system/

IMHO, this pandemic is revealing numerous societal inequities & disparities and showing us the need for an overhaul of some of our outdated, ineffective "established systems".

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Old 04-12-2020, 01:46 PM
 
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We should have been doing what Sweden's been doing for the past month, keep everything open and everything going...
I wouldn't count on that....looks like it's backfiring on them now...

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...ountry/sweden/
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Old 04-12-2020, 03:09 PM
 
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We should just do whatever Yemen is doing

https://www.worldometers.info/corona...country/yemen/

Clearly they are managing this very effectively!
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