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Old 04-15-2020, 10:38 AM
 
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I wish they hadn't combined results from both hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine like they did...
...the drugs are not the same...and this muddies the results...if one worked better than the other there's no way to know....and a lot of people can't take chloroquine...and a lot of people can take hydroxychloroquine

...looks like they are close to 20,000 patients in their survey now

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Old 04-15-2020, 10:58 AM
 
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And a new clinical trial is of hydroxychloroquine and a placebo.

The placebo? Vitamin C.

Vitamin C is a known anitviral.

Completely useless clinical trial. More mud.

It's almost like it'a being done on purpose...
 
Old 04-15-2020, 11:01 AM
 
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And a new clinical trial is of hydroxychloroquine and a placebo.

The placebo? Vitamin C.

Vitamin C is a known anitviral.

Completely useless clinical trial. More mud.

It's almost like it'a being done on purpose...
Hard to figure this out, but I think I've got it. You are saying that they are claiming to test a placebo against hydroxychloroquine, but the "placebo" actually is an antiviral? That means that they are trying to diminish the benefits of using H/C.

The question is why? And my other question is why are they inflating the death rate of COVID?
 
Old 04-15-2020, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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And a new clinical trial is of hydroxychloroquine and a placebo.

The placebo? Vitamin C.

Vitamin C is a known anitviral.

Completely useless clinical trial. More mud.

It's almost like it'a being done on purpose...
Idiotic, at least at face value. Is that being run by the FDA? Gotta protect big pharma to make billions off an expensive "vaccine" rather than use a cheap, available generic.
 
Old 04-15-2020, 11:17 AM
 
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And a new clinical trial is of hydroxychloroquine and a placebo.
The placebo? Vitamin C.
Vitamin C is a known anitviral.
Completely useless clinical trial. More mud.
It's almost like it'a being done on purpose...
well thank you for playing....but that has absolutely nothing to do with what I posted


Agilum correlated data on CV patients....this was not a clinical trial.....just data mining....that were given hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine...with or without Zpack....

...nothing to do with Vitamin C at all
 
Old 04-15-2020, 11:55 AM
 
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With ya, Corrie - I didn't see any mention of Vit. C in the report - nor any mention of untreated patients. It's just a data source of patients who were treated - inconclusive on its own, but perhaps useful to someone, ultimately.



Really weird about the Vit. C. Did I miss that in the report?
 
Old 04-15-2020, 12:04 PM
 
Location: King County, WA
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I'll believe this stuff when I see a peer-reviewed paper.
 
Old 04-15-2020, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Coastal San Diego
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I'll believe this stuff when I see a peer-reviewed paper.
So you believe Trump before a peer review? How pathetic.
 
Old 04-15-2020, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Agilum doesn't show anything. It is just numbers. There is no evidence in this data that any of the drugs is anymore effective than doing nothing. We await a real trial.
 
Old 04-15-2020, 12:16 PM
 
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Agilum doesn't show anything. It is just numbers. There is no evidence in this data that any of the drugs is anymore effective than doing nothing. We await a real trial.
Truth. Agilum is a data compiler. What we don't know, and we won't know, is how people would have done without the drugs. Despite this regurgitation, the data doesn't show that a person survived using any of these combinations and would have done worse without them.
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