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Old 03-14-2009, 11:51 PM
 
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I am more than willing to put those achievements up against any other minority group who has faced the same challenges in that short amount of time.
Jews? Chinese immigrants fleeing religious persecution? Indian peasants? Not a favorable comparison....

Of course, rather than name minority groups, I'd rather just ask why people in general aren't successful in America. It's ultimately for the same reasons across social strata. Some people just don't choose to see these same reasons in the same light. And those cultural barriers are worth addressing.

 
Old 03-15-2009, 12:01 AM
 
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My coworker is Black and fits every stereotype I ever had of Black people, it's sad.

Late everyday, steals company time, hits on woman and constantly says sexually degrading things, is lazy, falls asleep at work, etc etc. It's ridiculous, and he says he doesn't like the stereotypes that Blacks have.
Yep, you said it correctly...those are the stereotypes YOU have.

What does the fact that you have a unprofessional and rude co-worker who is black have anything to do with black people in general?
 
Old 03-15-2009, 07:22 AM
 
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Late everyday, steals company time, hits on woman and constantly says sexually degrading things, is lazy, falls asleep at work, etc etc. .
Dang, and for a minute there I thought you was gonna describe a typical white boy........................Gen xer.......
 
Old 03-15-2009, 07:36 AM
 
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To the OP:

Here's another little reason, institutionalized theft perpetrated against black motorists:
Driving through Tenaha, Texas, doesn't pay for some - Los Angeles Times

If this is a true, unbiased account of what happens in Tenaha, the feds should shut this town down. Maybe we could use it as a testing site for one of our nuke warheads - its about time we broke a treaty or two.
 
Old 03-15-2009, 11:11 AM
 
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What does the fact that you have a unprofessional and rude co-worker who is black have anything to do with black people in general?
That it seems it is how the majority of them act.

We can dance around it all day but their crime rate per population is outrageous and nearly every place on earth where there are Black people they are responsible for a disproportional amount of crime... yet it's somehow not their fault, it's racism.

Funny how Asians in America don't experience this 'racism' that Blacks or Hispanics do. I'm sure it has nothing to do with the crime and violence that some groups bring.
 
Old 03-15-2009, 11:42 AM
 
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That it seems it is how the majority of them act.
We can dance around it all day but their crime rate per population is outrageous and nearly every place on earth where there are Black people they are responsible for a disproportional amount of crime... yet it's somehow not their fault, it's racism.

Funny how Asians in America don't experience this 'racism' that Blacks or Hispanics do. I'm sure it has nothing to do with the crime and violence that some groups bring.

That is according to your view of the unprofessional people you have worked with. What you are failing to realize is that those people represent themselves, not a race as a whole. It seems like it's hard for people to understand that. I'm guessing that it's not so hard, it's just that people DON'T want to understand it because it challenges their narrow-minded views.

It's the same as if I was to see a white person or group of white people being disrespectful. I am educated enough to know that they are representing themselves badly, not the whole race.

I know its hard to shift out of your comfort zone, but you should try it sometime. Applying critical thinking can work wonders.
 
Old 03-15-2009, 12:41 PM
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Many of the problems that blacks and Hispanics are blamed for are the failures of the inner cities and urban areas which blacks and Hispanics populate disproportionately. In small towns and rural America blacks and Hispanics don’t seem to have the same problem as minorities in big cities in fact many of them are doing as good or better than their white counter parts. Social problems are created by urban America and the inhabitants of these parts of a city are prone to the stereotypical behavior. During the 1880’s when Immigrants from all over Europe, Asia, and parts of the Middle East began to populate all the Major cities, they too were labeled as Gangsters, Drug Dealers, ***** Mongers and people who by their ethnicity were not suited to live among civilized whites. When you look at the races of men registering for the draft in WWI there was a separate designation for Caucasian and one for White. Until minorities leave the Urban areas their is no better definition for success than to escape. Even W.E.B. Dubois warned about black people living in " Black enclaves" 100 years ago.

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Old 03-15-2009, 02:18 PM
 
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My coworker is Black and fits every stereotype I ever had of Black people, it's sad.

Late everyday, steals company time, hits on woman and constantly says sexually degrading things, is lazy, falls asleep at work, etc etc. It's ridiculous, and he says he doesn't like the stereotypes that Blacks have.


hmmm sounds like someone has lead a very sheltered life, because that description fits a few other ethnic groups that i'm aware of, except their in a managerial position.
 
Old 03-15-2009, 03:29 PM
 
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hmmm sounds like someone has lead a very sheltered life, because that description fits a few other ethnic groups that i'm aware of, except their in a managerial position.
They're they're they're....nails on a chalkboard....they're!!! (cha cha)

Just doing my duty to clean up the English language--one post at a time. I'll leave the other issues be in that post. Consider me generous today.
 
Old 03-15-2009, 03:44 PM
 
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They're they're they're....nails on a chalkboard....they're!!! (cha cha)

Just doing my duty to clean up the English language--one post at a time. I'll leave the other issues be in that post. Consider me generous today.
They're meaning they are...she meant to use it as their...
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