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You can't blame Trump for the spread of the virus to the rest of the world. You can only hold him responsible for the spread in the United States.[/QUOTE
He limited the spread by banning the China flights - something the guy you’re planning to vote for opposed.
And second, while I realize the leftists are trying to blame Trump in order to win the election, he isn’t at fault. When the WHO and even Dr. Fauci were telling him this would not be a problem, he listened to the professional advice. When it later became apparent that China and the WHO lied or otherwise misled, and his medical advisors recommended a shutdown, he agreed. His ability to quickly pull together private industry to pitch in with supplies and research has been amazing.
This situation would have been much worse under a Dem president. It is incalculable how much more quickly this would have spread if the identity politics people were in charge. They’d wave in flight after flight from China to prove they weren’t xenophobic, and cost triple the number of lives in the process.
The outbreak was declared a Public Health Emergency of International Concern on 30 January 2020 by the WHO.
Well, if true, and it’s late and I’m too tired to research your claims, that makes the Dem nominee’s response even worse! WHO warned, and Biden still wanted infected Chinese flights to come into this country because it was more important to spare the feelings of Chinese people? Instead, he played the race card against Trump?
Thank G-d we had Trump at the helm, and not an identity politics Democrat.
Yes, you are too tired to research your claims. ^^^
Yep. Make no mistake. China is not a government of the people, it is a government for the government. They want to be world leaders. They have said as much. They are evil, and we have sold ourselves to them by becoming so reliant on their labor. Now, it is not surprising that more evidence is coming out that CV19 was made in their lab and they spread it intentionally AND tried to control the narrative. Communism people. It is time to wake up to the fact that we are on some level at war with China. I don't see bombs being launched anytime soon, but covertly, we and the West are at war with them.
1- we are supposed to have a team looking at all these viruses and impacts to our Homeland - that team received no funding and fell by the wayside. Who was in charge or made that decision not to keep the watchman on the payroll?
2 - if it’s a deliberate or opportunistic act - then the commander in chief is not prepared to defend the nation against an attack. He does not trust the Intel agencies.
3 - attacks are not politically based - they are against all of us, so it doesn’t matter who is at the helm - if we got hit - it is the responsibility of that leader- it’s on their watch.
4 -hiding him behind Dr Fauci is an excuse - there’s other intel at his disposal - he called his golf buddies - facts- timeline shows him piddling except doing his favorite thing - shutting down borders. Yet - thousands still travelled from that region.
5- deflecting his primary responsibility to protect us - really makes him look weak and incompetent. It’s like the parent of an unruly child who lit the trash can on fire - and the parent screams - no ! not my child, he is sweet and would never do that - while the video camera shows him striking the match.
I am pretty confident that the virus would have made it to the United States even if all international flights were halted from China at the time China halted domestic travel to and from Wuhan. Before China knew what was going on....the virus probably had already spread internationally...or was already in the process of doing so.
It's also possible that we WANTED international flights from China for a period of time. That way we could blame the Chinese if the virus started being detected in the US. What if it was already in the US prior to the outbreak in China? Why did it take so long before America would start testing? Why did America have to wait until it created its own test when the WHO had a test that the rest of the world was using? Why then did we limit those who could get the test, early on, to people who had traveled to China or came into contact with those who did? Why did it take the worlds SUPER POWER, the most advanced country, take so long to have test for anyone who wanted to take one? Only testing people, despite their symptoms, who had international travel is a way to ensure that no non-international travel cases of the virus would be found. Now that enough time has passed.....we can roll out testing to the general public and all of the cases would be assumed to have originated from Wuhan China.
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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Jan 24
China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!
I am pretty confident that the virus would have made it to the United States even if all international flights were halted from China at the time China halted domestic travel to and from Wuhan. Before China knew what was going on....the virus probably had already spread internationally...or was already in the process of doing so.
It's also possible that we WANTED international flights from China for a period of time. That way we could blame the Chinese if the virus started being detected in the US. What if it was already in the US prior to the outbreak in China? Why did it take so long before America would start testing? Why did America have to wait until it created its own test when the WHO had a test that the rest of the world was using? Why then did we limit those who could get the test, early on, to people who had traveled to China or came into contact with those who did? Why did it take the worlds SUPER POWER, the most advanced country, take so long to have test for anyone who wanted to take one? Only testing people, despite their symptoms, who had international travel is a way to ensure that no non-international travel cases of the virus would be found. Now that enough time has passed.....we can roll out testing to the general public and all of the cases would be assumed to have originated from Wuhan China.
We do not have all the facts of the origin or the intent from China-- but what is OUR part in all this??--
Below is an example-
At our house the BBQ pit is on fire and sits very close to the house and starting to scorch it.
Do you - 1- wait for someone to call 911 as you are screaming FIRE?
2- stand back and watch until the fireman arrive? checking your insurance co?
3- attempt using your fire extinguisher/ hose /sand to put out the fire?
Did we have a plan for a possible fire at home?
Do we own a fire extinguisher?
Are you prepared if something to goes wrong at your house?
Pandemic-
Did we have a plan for a possible contagion ?
Do we own or have ready available - PPE, ventilators equipment, additional medical staff?
Do we call all the experts to give us good information with urgency on how to contain it?
Well our nation is supposed to be prepared, but it is not. We have the skills, the plans, the experts, the money, all types of resources etc. and we put this type of threat on the back burner. As usual, we stay in denial as this can never happen to US!
We have showed our weakness. I pray as with 911- we step up our game and look for a different type of enemy. IF this was intentional - will we survive next time?
I am pretty confident that the virus would have made it to the United States even if all international flights were halted from China at the time China halted domestic travel to and from Wuhan. Before China knew what was going on....the virus probably had already spread internationally...or was already in the process of doing so.
It's also possible that we WANTED international flights from China for a period of time. That way we could blame the Chinese if the virus started being detected in the US. What if it was already in the US prior to the outbreak in China? Why did it take so long before America would start testing? Why did America have to wait until it created its own test when the WHO had a test that the rest of the world was using? Why then did we limit those who could get the test, early on, to people who had traveled to China or came into contact with those who did? Why did it take the worlds SUPER POWER, the most advanced country, take so long to have test for anyone who wanted to take one? Only testing people, despite their symptoms, who had international travel is a way to ensure that no non-international travel cases of the virus would be found.
First confirmed case in the US was on January 20th. Patient came back from Wuhan region on January 15th, so assuming that he picked it up in China rather than here he was already infected on on January 15th. December 31, China reports unusual pneumonia cluster in Wuhan. January 20th China reports supected human to human transmission. China locked down Hubei province on January 23rd.
I mean, there's all sorts of speculation that China new exactly what they were dealing with in November but it's just that, speculation. If they did, shame on China. But it's speculation. There's all sorts of speculation. It's a bioweapon. It's Chinese eating bats. It's a stolen virus from a virology lab in Canada that got out because the Chinese steal stuff and can't run labs properly. Since we don't know with certainty any of those are possibilities.
Hypothetically say China knew and reported on January 1st rather than January 20th that there was human to human transmission and locked Hubei down on the 3rd. Would it have been any different? Maybe, but probably not. January 20th to February 2nd travel restriction was 14 days to travel restrictions, which take us from January 1st to January 14th It's not explicitly stated but it doesn't sound like the patient was a tourist and probably would have been like any of the other tens of thousands of people who returned from China after the travel restriction were put in place because they did not apply to him. State Department was evacuating people from Hubei after it was locked down.
Did they know on January 1st? Maybe. Maybe patient zero is an American who ate bats in China. I doubt it but it's possible.
The much more likely scenario as I see it is it was going to get here regardless of anything China did. Once here it was going to do exactly what it did. California reported the first official case on January 26th. March 20th statewide shelter in place in California. Compared with the restrictions China enacted, California's restrictions are, well, much less restrictive. It was always going to be bad here. We're a country of individualists that don't take kindly to no gubment meddling. The same people who are so adamant about it all being China's fault for not containing it are very often the exact same people shouting about how we're destroying the economy to save a few people that were just going to die anyway.
the left is a fine companion and kindred spirit with communist china. they even approved the empire state bldng to light up red and yellow to celebrate the 60th anniv of communist red china.
lies and twisted words are the weapons used by both their propaganda machines.
Biden even told us China was no threat to the US.
While Obama defended Russia in a national debate.
China is guilty of murder, first it was our pets and now our people. Negligent homicide would be the lightest charge.
Dry China up. Wear a mask and never ever buy any goods made in China for sale on ebay or amazon or anywhere else. Don't wait for a government response, take responsibility and be personally responsible to affect a change and encourage to people to overthrow the communists.
If Euro countries do not step up to help, they should be punished.
Trump has shifted blame off China to the WHO
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And they could be at fault- but that does NOT take away his responsibility at home to be prepared to defend the citizens of the country. He dropped the ball in more than one area... matters what they did!
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