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Old 04-16-2020, 03:08 PM
 
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Witnesses with “personal and relevant” knowledge about 9/11 have told lawyers and investigators representing thousands of victims of the 2001 terrorist attacks in New York and Washington that they are afraid to testify against Saudi Arabia.

The witnesses cited active intimidation by Saudi “agents,” and anxiety about the brutal October 2018 murder of Saudi journalist and dissident Jamal Khashoggi inside the Saudi consulate in Istanbul, Turkey – a slaying the CIA concluded was ordered by the country’s de facto ruler, Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, often known by his initials, MBS.
https://www.floridabulldog.org/2020/...-11-witnesses/

Sickening. Almost 20 years, and the full truth about our Saudi “ally’s” involvement in the worst terrorist attack in American history is STILL being covered up!
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Old 04-17-2020, 12:27 AM
 
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No one?
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Old 04-17-2020, 01:27 AM
 
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Really? Who knew that the Saudi’s had the US by the b*lls? I think it has something to do with that black stuff that makes our cars, trucks, and airplanes run.
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Old 04-17-2020, 02:17 AM
 
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https://www.floridabulldog.org/2020/...-11-witnesses/

Sickening. Almost 20 years, and the full truth about our Saudi “ally’s” involvement in the worst terrorist attack in American history is STILL being covered up!
I have 0 love, respect or even a little compassion for the Saudis. That said isn't a more accurate statement more like Muslims from Saudi Arabia ......

Be honest, this was a Muslim terrorist attack. It wasn't state sponsored. At least not like Israel's attack on the USS Liberty.

In this case it was a Muslim attack, done in the name of Allah, not in the name of Saudi Arabia, not for the Royal family, for Allah.
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Old 04-17-2020, 02:23 AM
 
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Maybe not directly state sponsored, but the Saudis certainly tolerated non-state activities, and supports the extremist ideology that is the origin of many of these groups. Basically, they turn a blind eye to it.

Sort of how during its height, the KKK was not state sponsored, however, many state and local governments sure did not hamper the group, many in government were even members, many more were supporters, even though many did not carry out violence themselves.
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Old 04-17-2020, 05:40 AM
 
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Maybe not directly state sponsored, but the Saudis certainly tolerated non-state activities, and supports the extremist ideology that is the origin of many of these groups. Basically, they turn a blind eye to it.

Sort of how during its height, the KKK was not state sponsored, however, many state and local governments sure did not hamper the group, many in government were even members, many more were supporters, even though many did not carry out violence themselves.
Obviously, the same as we do. So when our good citizens of Irish ancestry were sending cash donations to the IRA, did that make it a US Government plot?

How many good Catholic Priests turned a blind eye to members of their church and or offered sanctuary to Irish terrorists? Was that a church sponsored or individual?

When the good citizens of the US of both Jewish faith and Christian send money to Israel, measured in the 10's of millions, does that make the US government guilty of Israel's transgressions?

Those acts no. Our billions in financial aid and weapons? Makes us a silent partner at the very least.

I hate terrorists. They are gutless cowards. I really don't like Saudi Arabs. Arrogant hypocrites and that is the best that can be said, but 911 was not an act by the Saudi government.
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Old 04-18-2020, 03:49 PM
 
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Maybe not directly state sponsored, but the Saudis certainly tolerated non-state activities, and supports the extremist ideology that is the origin of many of these groups. Basically, they turn a blind eye to it.

Sort of how during its height, the KKK was not state sponsored, however, many state and local governments sure did not hamper the group, many in government were even members, many more were supporters, even though many did not carry out violence themselves.
The KKK was in charge of Indiana's state and local governments in the 1920s, was it not?
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Old 04-18-2020, 04:17 PM
 
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Obviously, the same as we do. So when our good citizens of Irish ancestry were sending cash donations to the IRA, did that make it a US Government plot?
If the US gov knew about it, and did nothing about it, then yes, that makes the US gov partially liable for promoting terrorism.

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How many good Catholic Priests turned a blind eye to members of their church and or offered sanctuary to Irish terrorists? Was that a church sponsored or individual?
If the church knew about it and did nothing, then yes, that makes them partially if not fully a participant.

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When the good citizens of the US of both Jewish faith and Christian send money to Israel, measured in the 10's of millions, does that make the US government guilty of Israel's transgressions?
Is there a law against Israel doing something or sending money to them? If so, then yes. But comparing a state entity to non-state entities is a bit odd...

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Those acts no. Our billions in financial aid and weapons? Makes us a silent partner at the very least.
If those weapons are knowingly going into the hands of terrorists, then yes. If those weapons are going into the hands of state actors who provide support to terrorists, then yes.

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I hate terrorists. They are gutless cowards. I really don't like Saudi Arabs. Arrogant hypocrites and that is the best that can be said, but 911 was not an act by the Saudi government.
As I said, maybe not directly, but indirectly yes in my opinion.

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The KKK was in charge of Indiana's state and local governments in the 1920s, was it not?
I have no idea, I am not a KKK history expert.
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