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Old 04-16-2020, 08:02 PM
 
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This video has made me much more confident in how to move. To me it is biased free and he points to something that I had mentioned early on about the information coming from our government. Our government tells us things to control our behavior, not to give us the truth. Saying that mask don't help is totally nonsensical. But that is what we were told. We were told that because we did not have enough mask and they did not want a run on masks that would have deprived the medical personal. We told people that they did not need test, unless showing symptoms or having traveled to certain places, early on, because we did not have test available and the people who were really sick might not have a test available for them. When we don't have the ability or desire to do something......the government tells the people that we DON'T NEED TO DO THAT....which is a lie. If they will lie about something like that, to control our behavior, just think what else they will lie about to control our behavior.

Great video!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAk7aX5hksU
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Old 04-17-2020, 12:58 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Agreed. If someone coughs on you. You can get it. Like you said, how in the world do masks not help?

Plus why hold back on masks, when people in the medical field would be the first to grab masks anyway? They are the first ones to know about it.
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Old 04-17-2020, 01:30 AM
 
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This video has made me much more confident in how to move. To me it is biased free and he points to something that I had mentioned early on about the information coming from our government. Our government tells us things to control our behavior, not to give us the truth. Saying that mask don't help is totally nonsensical. But that is what we were told. We were told that because we did not have enough mask and they did not want a run on masks that would have deprived the medical personal. We told people that they did not need test, unless showing symptoms or having traveled to certain places, early on, because we did not have test available and the people who were really sick might not have a test available for them. When we don't have the ability or desire to do something......the government tells the people that we DON'T NEED TO DO THAT....which is a lie. If they will lie about something like that, to control our behavior, just think what else they will lie about to control our behavior.

Great video!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAk7aX5hksU

Not really anything I didn't know............(adds kim-chee to shopping list)...................
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Old 04-17-2020, 05:54 AM
 
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Not really anything I didn't know............(adds kim-chee to shopping list)...................
Good for you then! I found it very refreshing to have an opinion that was not tainted by our countries politics, conspiracy theories and sensationalism. It was just "matter of fact" science. That is all that I want to know. It's true also that I had figured some of this.....but was not sure because I am not a scientist or on the front line. I learned some new things and he confirmed some things I already suspected.

What seems to clear to me is that the US does not seek to learn from the experience of other nations, but instead, seek to reinvent the wheel all over. I think that is proving costly. We need to be learning as much as we can from countries that have gone through this before.
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Old 04-17-2020, 07:07 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Agreed. If someone coughs on you. You can get it. Like you said, how in the world do masks not help?

Plus why hold back on masks, when people in the medical field would be the first to grab masks anyway? They are the first ones to know about it.
It’s really quite simple, the cloth masks the public are recommend to wear don’t restrict enough air flow to make a difference, and that’s not even getting into virus particles size and the filtration capabilities of a cloth mask, which is basically nil.
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Old 04-17-2020, 07:18 AM
 
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It’s really quite simple, the cloth masks the public are recommend to wear don’t restrict enough air flow to make a difference, and that’s not even getting into virus particles size and the filtration capabilities of a cloth mask, which is basically nil.
Will building a wall to keep people from illegally crossing the border HELP to make it harder for people to cross the border? People reason that it will, even though its not full proof. However, the same people will reason that a mask does absolutely no good.....so why wear one.

I say use what you got.....its better than nothing.
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Old 04-17-2020, 07:44 AM
 
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This is great info. Thank you for sharing. Had we been wearing cloth masks from early on, much of the spread would have likely been prevented.

Tried but can’t rep you anymore.
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Old 04-17-2020, 07:53 AM
 
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This video has made me much more confident in how to move. To me it is biased free and he points to something that I had mentioned early on about the information coming from our government. Our government tells us things to control our behavior, not to give us the truth. Saying that mask don't help is totally nonsensical. But that is what we were told. We were told that because we did not have enough mask and they did not want a run on masks that would have deprived the medical personal. We told people that they did not need test, unless showing symptoms or having traveled to certain places, early on, because we did not have test available and the people who were really sick might not have a test available for them. When we don't have the ability or desire to do something......the government tells the people that we DON'T NEED TO DO THAT....which is a lie. If they will lie about something like that, to control our behavior, just think what else they will lie about to control our behavior.

Great video!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAk7aX5hksU
I can understand where you are coming from, but how do you explain Trumps recent effort to get everyone back to work, to get businesses re opened as soon as possible? If they truly wanted us scared and frightened, they would ensure the virus GOT WORSE and restrictions had to continue and get tougher too.
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Old 04-17-2020, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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I can understand where you are coming from, but how do you explain Trumps recent effort to get everyone back to work, to get businesses re opened as soon as possible? If they truly wanted us scared and frightened, they would ensure the virus GOT WORSE and restrictions had to continue and get tougher too.
Because the economy is hurting and Trump has always crowed about the great economy. Without the great economy he has nothing to run on really and it's an election year.
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Old 04-17-2020, 08:12 AM
 
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Agreed. If someone coughs on you. You can get it. Like you said, how in the world do masks not help?

Plus why hold back on masks, when people in the medical field would be the first to grab masks anyway? They are the first ones to know about it.
If this is the conclusion - is this really ground breaking information?

This has always been the case with any cold, flu, etc.


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Because the economy is hurting and Trump has always crowed about the great economy. Without the great economy he has nothing to run on really and it's an election year.
Actually - since the reason the economy tanked was not of his doing... actually he can use the fact that what he did worked the first time.

Do you really not see that?
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