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Old 04-20-2020, 09:40 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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"Why Do Poor People Have Kids They Can't Afford To Raise?"....gosh I don't know....why do republicans fall all over themselves trying to close down Planned Parenthood, one of the only places the poor can go for free/low cost birth control/counseling ?
Interesting platitude... Can you prove that it's Republicans who are disproportionately bearing children they cannot afford to support and therefore have to go on public assistance?
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Old 04-20-2020, 09:41 AM
 
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Why Do Rich People Have Kids They Can’t Spare Time To Raise?
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Old 04-20-2020, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Religion and nationality also come into play.

In cities a lot of Irish Catholics were cops and firemen. Catholics weren't even supposed to practice birth control back in the day.

In my town.

The Callahans, 7 kids

The Brennans, 7 kids

Reillys , 8 kids

Farleys, 10 kids

Yeah the Irish were especially fertile and they had the police and fire departments locked up. Janitor jobs at the schools too. Them and the Italians. If you were Italian in that county you got hired by the schools.
They also had large families.
This was north side, Chicago. Most (not me) were Polish. ( Chicago has the largest population of Poles outside Warsaw) The Irish and Italians dominated the south side and dominated public service. As I understand it, most public service jobs were patronage.
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Old 04-20-2020, 09:45 AM
 
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Interesting platitude... Can you prove that it's Republicans who are disproportionately bearing children they cannot afford to support and therefore have to go on public assistance?
Reading comprehension? The poster said nothing about poor repugs having children, just the repugs do all they can to shut down any programs designed to help
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Old 04-20-2020, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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The poorest places on earth don't have public assistance, which TAKES money from some to pay to others. In the US, money is TAKEN from the productive sector of society to GIVE to society's parasites.
ahh its about the taxpayers woes. Honey if they don't give it to the poor- they will use it for war or spend it on bridges to nowhere, or golfing -you still have to pay--- and now,,, just wait on the insurance companies taking your house, to cover the zillions of dollars spent on medical expenses for the last 4 months.
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Old 04-20-2020, 09:48 AM
 
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Depends on what decade you were born in. I'm a senior citizen and there wasn't much birth control back then. I may or may not have been planned. There is no excuse for it in the past couple of decades or so because birth control has been widely available. Some cultures, religions, etc. don't believe in birth control. Some breed because they are too lazy to use birth control. They allow their impulses to control them and some people breed to get on the government dole.
The irony is that birth rates in the USA are dropping.
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Old 04-20-2020, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Kiryas Joel, NY comes to mind.
Indeed.

The poorest and youngest population in the US. Something about arranged marriages, marrying young, your self worth determined by the number of kids, low education, lack of marketable skills, rejection of all things modern, religious studies instead of employment and welfare, cradle to grave....
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Old 04-20-2020, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Sadly, true. Having children as a poor person yields more $$$ in public assistance benefits.
That’s not necessarily the motivation.

Poor countries have high fertility rates while countries with strong social welfare programs have the lowest fertility rates.
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Old 04-20-2020, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Boston
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Amazing that young women would allow themselves to be treated so shabbily.

At 27, with 3 kids from different guys, with no job, no skills, no education, no future, you're pretty much done, You better hope your poor parents can help.
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Old 04-20-2020, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Depends on what decade you were born in. I'm a senior citizen and there wasn't much birth control back then. I may or may not have been planned. There is no excuse for it in the past couple of decades or so because birth control has been widely available. Some cultures, religions, etc. don't believe in birth control. Some breed because they are too lazy to use birth control. They allow their impulses to control them and some people breed to get on the government dole.
The highest fertility rates in the US are being experienced by religious cultures that do not believe in birth control. Being fruitful is viewed as a moral obligation.
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