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Why not hold off on the kids for a few years, figure out a legitimate career, get your own life on track first, and then have the kids? Then you won't need all the government programs to raise your kids for you.
It makes no logical sense to have kids if you're poor. Wouldn't you wanna provide a decent childhood for your kids? Instead of bringing them into a life of almost guaranteed poverty?
Because we are too soft on the poor in this country. There are few disincentives. We have subsidy after subsidy that subsidizes poor choices and out of wedlock births. Just a couple of generations ago, being on the dole was an embarrassment and stigmatized. Now days no one thinks twice about a single mother, men are not criticized for producing bastard children. Just a couple of decades ago the poor went to food pantries and government centers for food assistance now they get link cards and crowd up the grocery lines of the productive members of society.
IMO, if you are on any form of public assistance, you should be on mandatory birth control. Moreover for those habitually on public assistance there should be mandatory sterilization. It is time we stop coddling the shiftless.
Because we are too soft on the poor in this country. There are few disincentives. We have subsidy after subsidy that subsidizes poor choices and out of wedlock births. Just a couple of generations ago, being on the dole was an embarrassment and stigmatized. Now days no one thinks twice about a single mother, men are not criticized for producing bastard children. Just a couple of decades ago the poor went to food pantries and government centers for food assistance now they get link cards and crowd up the grocery lines of the productive members of society.
IMO, if you are on any form of public assistance, you should be on mandatory birth control. Moreover for those habitually on public assistance there should be mandatory sterilization. It is time we stop coddling the shiftless.
I think this is completely wrong, and not bourne out by the evidence. Namely, welfare spending is correlated with falling birth rates.
People respond better to positive incentives than negative incentives. The best way to reduce unplanned pregnancies is not to punish them, but to reward childlessness.
The best way to reward childlessness is to provide old-age security for the poor. Otherwise some will have children as a means of being supported in their elder years.
It sticks in the craw of many that we have to bribe people who don't contribute much to basically scram. But we have an incredibly productive economy where bribery has never been easier to justify. And bribery keeps the peace and does not lead to revolts that destroy infrastructure.
It's working. The birthrate is falling everywhere.
If only people who could truly afford to have kids regardless of life events and struggles, we would have a severe birth shortage. That's not a good thing is it?
If only people who could truly afford to have kids regardless of life events and struggles, we would have a severe birth shortage. That's not a good thing is it?
It all depends on what you expect to get out of life.
If you want to build an empire yeah a falling population cramps your style.
If you want to relax and enjoy nature a falling population gets you closer.
The poorest populations historically have the highest fertility rates. The poorest countries with no welfare have historically produced the highest birth rate while countries with strong safety nets have the lowest fertility rates.
An exception to this, can be found in pockets in NY and NJ and Israel. Lakewood Township, NJ recently overtook Nigeria with the highest fertility rate. 12 children and sometimes as many as 20 living off welfare, cradle to grave. It’s a cultural thing.
Why Do Poor People Have Kids They Can't Afford To Raise?
Their children should be taken from them at birth so the children have a chance to be raised by loving, responsible parents.
People who have children when, they know at the time of conception, they can't provide for the children financially, emotionally or mentally should be "fixed," so they can't procreate again and ruin more children's lives.
There are more than 20 million school- aged children on free/ reduced rate meals at school. Who is going to adopt 20 million children if removing children from homes due to poverty was an option. 20 million!
A entire thread devoted to picking on poor people. Does it make you feel smug and superior?
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