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Old 04-22-2020, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Missouri, USA
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Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake View Post

Might want to check your facts before posting. Florida cases aren't "spiking", they are trending downward.
They also quarantine people coming in from New York now and have gotten a lot more aggressive about this thing.

 
Old 04-22-2020, 08:39 PM
 
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That's what the modeling was all about !!! Wrong plenty too !!!
The odds seem to be saying most people guess wrong b/c they don't have the information to guess right !!!
This info is on the Florida's department of Health site. This virus is just going to keep spreading. Even if businesses open, most people won't go. People don't want to get this virus. It affects everyone differently. Some have mild symptoms, others more severe and deadly. You just don't know.
 
Old 04-22-2020, 08:41 PM
 
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This info is on the Florida's department of Health site. This virus is just going to keep spreading. Even if businesses open, most people won't go. People don't want to get this virus. It affects everyone differently. Some have mild symptoms, others more severe and deadly. You just don't know.
It's going to keep spreading no matter what is done. You are making the case for opening things back up.
 
Old 04-22-2020, 08:45 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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This info is on the Florida's department of Health site. This virus is just going to keep spreading. Even if businesses open, most people won't go. People don't want to get this virus. It affects everyone differently. Some have mild symptoms, others more severe and deadly. You just don't know.
https://www.worldometers.info/corona...-demographics/

According to their data, of those that died, 1.2% were under 65 without any underlying health conditions. By all means, if you're elderly or sickly, stay home. Those 65 and older can collect Social Security and don't have the need to go out that younger people do. They can stay "isolated" and not suffer through losing their homes or not being able to put food on the table due to unemployment. But for the rest, it's time to get the economy started up.
 
Old 04-22-2020, 08:46 PM
 
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It looks like things are going to get really interesting in Georgia in about 2 or 3 weeks. Good luck!

Can we put a border wall around the state?
What do your models say will happen?
 
Old 04-22-2020, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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They also quarantine people coming in from New York now and have gotten a lot more aggressive about this thing.
Honestly, that makes sense. Nobody really wants people from the most infected region of the country bringing this to their neighborhood. Florida has a death rate of less than 1/20th of what NY does.
 
Old 04-22-2020, 08:49 PM
 
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Might want to check your facts before posting. Florida cases aren't "spiking", they are trending downward.
Your chart must be older. There are now 927 deaths and over 28,000 cases. And 2 of my sisters live there so I also get the facts from them. And yeah it's spiking. How could it not when you allow everything to reopen. Do you think this virus is just going to magically disappear.
 
Old 04-22-2020, 08:51 PM
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Location: Suburban Dallas
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Well, I'm going to make the case for opening things back up. It's because this entire country needs to be doing that. We are still going to have cases, and also, there are going to be deaths every day in this nation from other things. Sadly, there will be also be deaths from coronavirus, and we all hate to see that. It's just a fact of life.

But, I am (as are many, many others) sick and tired of hearing the same voices say that we need to keep things shut down. We've been shut down more than long enough, and it's obvious why those voices want so badly to keep things shut down in the first place. There is not going to be any socialism, and there's not going to be a utopia. America is a resilient nation, and we are going to bring this economy back to where it needs to be. Period. Six weeks ago, we need a dynamite economy. It certainly can happen again, and very soon.

You're not going to survive without people working, or without all of us on here working. This is how things like soap and paper towels and other necessities even get to store shelves. Sooner or later, you're going to want to dine in at a restaurant. Sooner or later, you'll want to take a trip and will need hotel reservations. Airplanes will one day be back in the skies moving people. And everyone on this forum is going to need their paychecks coming in. Keeping things shut down will not be sustainable, folks.

That said, I applaud Governor Kemp for his action, and I believe that good things will come out of this. Other states certainly will follow. It's time.
 
Old 04-22-2020, 08:53 PM
 
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Your chart must be older. There are now 927 deaths and over 28,000 cases. And 2 of my sisters live there so I also get the facts from them. And yeah it's spiking. How could it not when you allow everything to reopen. Do you think this virus is just going to magically disappear.
Well you havent made a case to keep people from earning a living or freely associating with one another.

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Old 04-22-2020, 08:58 PM
 
Location: South of Heaven
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Gov. Brian Kemp announced Monday that gyms, hair salons, and other businesses can reopen Friday in Georgia — one of several states easing restrictions over the next two weeks after being shut down to slow the spread of the novel coronavirus.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...arolina-reopen

And that's how one man was able to suck trillions more dollars from our nation that we'll have to spend fighting the coronavirus.

Whether you just wanted to let the virus spread everywhere from the beginning...want to keep schools and gyms and movie theatres and those sorts of socialization spots closed down, but open the less-social businesses like engineering offices...or just want everything but the most important businesses shut down until the end of May...all three of those strategies make some degree of sense.

Governor Brian Kemp's strategy, however, does not. All that work Georgia has done so far will be flushed completely away. The last month will become completely irrelevant about thirty seconds after Friday.

Then...what's going to happen is it's going to spread out all over the country, with Georgia as the pulsating, pus-leaking, epicenter, like a fat alien queen incubating her eggs.

Say goodbye to that chance we had of the heat effecting the coronavirus, and combined with social distancing us all working to crush it down to a manageable level where we could re-open businesses and be prepared for local, precise, closings of areas to stomp out small outbreaks easily.

instead, what's going to happen now is that Georgia is going to let its number of cases spike sky high...and then everyone is going to panic as much as they're doing in New York, and THEN they're going to start shutting down lots of businesses AFTER the hell has already broken loose. The people are just going to demand that and there won't be anything that can be done about it.

And...those states that wanted more businesses to stay closed down for longer to try to fight the thing are going to have to work twice as hard because of it.
I hope you're wrong.
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