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Old 04-24-2020, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Park City, UT
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Today, the Public Health Authority presented a new study that estimates that one third of everyone in Stockholm County will be infected with sars-cov-2 on May 1st this year. There will be about 600,000 people.
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The Public Health Authority study comes to the same results as the mathematician Tom Britton’s calculations. This weekend he presented a study which also indicates that 30 percent of the population in Stockholm has had covid-19.
https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/st...SB8YvMpA1EwpdQ

https://russia-insider.com/en/game-o...as-won/ri29837

Well...

Now that we know lockdowns are totally unnecessary, now what?
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Old 04-24-2020, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Boulder, CO
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We (Americans) stayed at home so that the hospitals wouldn't be overwhelmed. They weren't.

While it may be a while before we go to concerts, sporting events, or other large group gatherings, it is time to let businesses reopen and get the economy cranking again. Elderly, compromised, etc remain cloistered.
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Old 04-24-2020, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Park City, UT
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We (Americans) stayed at home so that the hospitals wouldn't be overwhelmed. They weren't.
They wouldn't have been overwhelmed anyways since most who catch the virus have no symptoms.
But because of the lockdowns, nurses and other medical personnel have actually been laid off from their jobs because most hospitals are sitting empty.

Colorado nurses being furloughed or laid off with fewer patients coming into emergency room
https://krdo.com/news/2020/04/23/col...mergency-room/

Even nation's largest health systems laying off health care workers amid COVID pandemic
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/corona...ry?id=70317683


Why won't people just admit that they were wrong?
The lockdown thing was completely unnecessary.
Trump was wrong, the democrats were wrong, Fauci was wrong, Bill Gates was wrong.
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Old 04-24-2020, 04:23 PM
 
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The commentary uses the facts/statistics about the virus in support of its commentary.

scroll down -- as of April 17 - Sweden's death rate per million was 136 -- today it is 213.

USA death rate per million as of today is 154.
Enough said

Factor in, Sweden doesn't have the NYC subways which spread coronavirus so easily and quickly.
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Old 04-24-2020, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/st...SB8YvMpA1EwpdQ

https://russia-insider.com/en/game-o...as-won/ri29837

Well...

Now that we know lockdowns are totally unnecessary, now what?
You are correct. Ron Paul has the best column on this;

The Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity : The data is in — stop the panic and end the total isolation
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Old 04-24-2020, 07:58 PM
 
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Enough said

Factor in, Sweden doesn't have the NYC subways which spread coronavirus so easily and quickly.
Stockholm has a subway (metro) system, one million a day on average ride it.
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Old 04-24-2020, 08:02 PM
 
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Did it ever occur to you the antibody test may be erroneous?

There are four strains of corona virus that cause the common cold, including OC43 and 229E.

There are more than a dozen strains of corona virus that cause flu-like symptoms which can result in viral pneumonia and death, including COVID-2, HCOV-NH, NCOV-NL, HCOV-NL63, HCOV-HKU1 and HCOV-MERS which have all arisen in the last 20 years.

If you've had "the flu" 10x in your life, it's likely 3x were actually corona and not influenza.

You do understand that the influenza test will return a positive, regardless of the strain of influenza, right?

Perhaps not.

The point being the test may actually be detecting other corona virus strains and not specifically COVID-19.
So the other corona viruses are still spreading even with social distancing? That would make them quite contagious.

Or perhaps anti-bodies do tend to stick around for all corona viruses, which would be a bit of good news.
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Old 04-24-2020, 08:04 PM
 
Location: 53179
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My father is from Sweden.

I have been watching Sweden much closer than anywhere else, regarding this pandemic.

At this point I wished I had learned to speak and read Swedish when I had the chance, but I did not.

I have friends and relatives there now.

From what I can gather, Swedes are very much aware of this virus, but living life as before for the most part. It seems in some more rural areas is where it is being treated with the social isolation method.
Yes, im from Sweden but I live in The USA now. My family is still in Sweden. My parents are self isolating because they are in the risk group being older. My other family members and friends are all working. Some chose to go outside to restaurants and such but they try to not sit on top of eachother. People are acting smart.
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Old 04-24-2020, 08:11 PM
 
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My relative from Sweden reports that a new bar/club opened up in a downtown square and it is packed at night.
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Old 04-24-2020, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Eh? What socialist system? We have an unfettered, out of control capitalist system. And no, it's not working. Making money out of people's healthcare is fundamentally incompatible with having their best interests at heart.
We have a fine test run of socialism going on right now? How are you liking it? Well, maybe you're one of those making more sitting around and collecting unemployment and a $15 an hour bonus, rather than working. In that case, I can see the lockdown being pretty popular.
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