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Old 04-22-2020, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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....the "right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

Are people willing to give up on our Constitution due to the virus panic?

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Following Monday’s protest at the state Capitol where demonstrators defied Gov. Gavin Newsom’s orders banning large gatherings, the California Highway Patrol says it will no longer issue permits for events at any state properties, including the Capitol.

https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics...242198781.html
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Old 04-22-2020, 11:34 AM
 
Location: King County, WA
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The government can impose restrictions on the time, place, and manner of peaceful assembly, provided that constitutional safeguards are met. The 'manner' would presumably include requirements for social distancing.

Ref.: https://www.loc.gov/law/help/peacefu...y/us.php#_ftn5
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Old 04-22-2020, 11:38 AM
 
Location: TUS/PDX
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The government can impose restrictions on the time, place, and manner of peaceful assembly, provided that constitutional safeguards are met. The 'manner' would presumably include requirements for social distancing.

Ref.: https://www.loc.gov/law/help/peacefu...y/us.php#_ftn5
That's why, for example, Anti-Trump protesters are required to only assemble in designated areas well away from the venue he's appearing at. Frankly, the same thing happened during Vietnam protests back in the day.

Good for the goose... well, you know the rest....
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Old 04-22-2020, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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That's why, for example, Anti-Trump protesters are required to only assemble in designated areas well away from the venue he's appearing at. Frankly, the same thing happened during Vietnam protests back in the day.
But that's not what CHP is doing. They are prohibiting gatherings on all state property, which is property owned by the citizens of CA.

And my memory of Viet Nam protests is quite different from yours. Thousands of people were permitted to protest all over the country.
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Old 04-22-2020, 11:57 AM
 
Location: TUS/PDX
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But that's not what CHP is doing. They are prohibiting gatherings on all state property, which is property owned by the citizens of CA.

And my memory of Viet Nam protests is quite different from yours. Thousands of people were permitted to protest all over the country.
Often not in areas they wished to, which is the same argument you're attempting to make. I suppose the current protesters could disregard the order and get arrested like they did back in the 60's, but I'm also thinkin' jail really isn't the place you want to be these days. Guess it depends on how committed to cause you are.
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Old 04-22-2020, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Often not in areas they wished to, which is the same argument you're attempting to make.
No, it's not the argument I'm making.

Viet Nam protesters were all over state and federal property. They were not banned from government property.

Apples and oranges.
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Old 04-22-2020, 01:08 PM
 
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People are afraid, thus they support an authoritarian police state.
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Old 04-22-2020, 01:09 PM
 
Location: In the reddest part of the bluest state
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But that's not what CHP is doing. They are prohibiting gatherings on all state property, which is property owned by the citizens of CA.

And my memory of Viet Nam protests is quite different from yours. Thousands of people were permitted to protest all over the country.
With that logic I'm gonna stop by the white house, grab some lunch and take a quick nap in the Lincoln bedroom.

I own it
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Old 04-22-2020, 01:14 PM
 
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....the "right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

Are people willing to give up on our Constitution due to the virus panic?

----------------

Following Monday’s protest at the state Capitol where demonstrators defied Gov. Gavin Newsom’s orders banning large gatherings, the California Highway Patrol says it will no longer issue permits for events at any state properties, including the Capitol.

https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics...242198781.html
i think its a violation of the first amendment to only allow peaceful assembly when the government issues a permit.
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Old 04-22-2020, 01:24 PM
 
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....the "right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

Are people willing to give up on our Constitution due to the virus panic?

----------------

Following Monday’s protest at the state Capitol where demonstrators defied Gov. Gavin Newsom’s orders banning large gatherings, the California Highway Patrol says it will no longer issue permits for events at any state properties, including the Capitol.

https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics...242198781.html

Yes, this virus overall is very unconstitutional and extremely invasive.

So I'd say go grab your guns and kill it.
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