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Old 04-23-2020, 03:19 PM
 
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It's an inherent problem with all laboratory tests (not just antibody tests), just to varying degrees. Testing in a very low incidence population leads to a high number of false positives. Testing in a very high incidence population leads to high levels of false negatives. The problem can't be completely avoided, as no test is both 100% sensitive and 100% specific (which is what would be needed to avoid the problem). The closer a test can get to 100% sensitive and 100% specific, the smaller the problem - but it's still there.

The first-generation antibody tests were pretty inaccurate, by laboratory testing standards. The newer ones are quite a bit better, but still in need of more long-term validation of their claimed sensitivity and specificity.
In other words, as long as the results support the alarmist narrative that you and your people are promoting, then these people are "experts" and it would be outrageous to do anything other than to trust and "believe" them.

But when the results contradict the narrative that your people are promoting, then the results are to be questioned and rejected.

It really does appear to be just as simple as this.
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Old 04-23-2020, 03:40 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...mos-study.html

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Are you guys still going to try to suggest that the antibody tests are wrong?

Time to go back to work.
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/cor...WN2fQrJQzSugJ8

Recovery may not be recovery.
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Old 04-23-2020, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Omaha, Nebraska
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In other words, as long as the results support the alarmist narrative that you and your people are promoting, then these people are "experts" and it would be outrageous to do anything other than to trust and "believe" them.

But when the results contradict the narrative that your people are promoting, then the results are to be questioned and rejected.

It really does appear to be just as simple as this.
Only to those who don't understand math.
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Old 04-23-2020, 03:42 PM
 
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"Experts say"... "translation" if we throw enough doubt out there we can extend this for years.
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Old 04-23-2020, 03:48 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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"Experts say"... "translation" if we throw enough doubt out there we can extend this for years.
What's your qualification to provide any medical advice? This virus is still not fully understood. It's being observed throughout the world that people who were thought to be recovered are having relapses and long term damage to their health. This is not over yet even though we all want it to be.
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Old 04-23-2020, 03:53 PM
 
Location: King County, WA
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These are interesting results, albeit wrapped in some uncertainty. As of yet, we are still learning about this virus. Hopefully by the Fall we will be much better informed.
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Old 04-23-2020, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Liberal doctors all over the world have organized this massive drama? Wow. I think that's impressive.
Slowly clapping as I put on my tinfoil hat.
I see we're now in the stage of the scam where the reaction to the scam is being used as the proof of the scam
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Old 04-23-2020, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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What's your qualification to provide any medical advice? This virus is still not fully understood. It's being observed throughout the world that people who were thought to be recovered are having relapses and long term damage to their health. This is not over yet even though we all want it to be.
So many medical experts on CD, they should be on the task force. So many unknowns on this virus people are jumping on solutions much too rapidly, we will no more in the next few months as some of these states reopen.
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Old 04-23-2020, 04:35 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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The population of New York City is 8.4 million.
https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=...4dUDCAk&uact=5

If 21% of them have antibodies, that suggests that roughly 1.76 million people in NYC have had (or they now have) Covid-19.

That's 13X as many as NYC Health has been reporting. (141,754 cases)
https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/covid/covid-19-data.page

If the mortality rate used to be considered at 1% to 2% as we have heard for many weeks, these new antibody tests would mean that the mortality rate is more like 0.077% to 0.154%.

That's not much more than the ordinary seasonal flu.

Could it be that, even in a hugely crowded area like New York City, Covid-19 isn't much more dangerous than the flu? And never has been?

Remind me again, why exactly have we shut down most of the economy in the entire country? For a disease not much more dangerous than the flu?

We never shut it down like this, for the flu.

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Old 04-23-2020, 08:15 PM
 
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Ya I'm pretty sure I caught the virus too Jan 8 before it was news. I was sick for about a week and recovered ...time to get to open up NY again
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