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It is fourth of July weekend. So this is probably another good move on Governor Abbott's part.
I've yet to see you criticize him. It's pretty odd to agree so much with every step a politician takes, especially when they keep contradicting themselves.
If there is no issue in TX, as you keep insisting, shouldn't beaches stay open?
Are you completely incapable of making a post that is factually accurate?
As you know very well:
1. There is no shutdown order.
2. The hospitals are not overwhelmed.
3. Gyms and restaurants are not shutdown, only bars. But there is a 50% capacity limitation.
4. The goal here is not to avoid new cases, but to provide healthcare to those who need it when they get the virus, which is happening.
The strategy being used by the state of Texas under Governor Abbott appears to be working in a satisfactory manner for the purposes for which it was designed, which is what the state of Texas needs.
Bars are shutdown but not gyms and restaurants, that was Arizona that took strong action. So 6000 cases a day and gyms and restaurants stay open, not a very intelligent reaction.
This isn't a strategy its a random dice roll that goes against all the guidelines. So would it be too much to require masks or follow other health guidelines.
What would failure look like in Texas if not 6,000 cases per day.
I've yet to see you criticize him. It's pretty odd to agree so much with every step a politician takes, especially when they keep contradicting themselves.
If there is no issue in TX, as you keep insisting, shouldn't beaches stay open?
You and your comrades are the ones who are doing everything you can to politicize this process. Not me.
I am a resident here and have been for a long time. I just want to see this work in a way that takes into account the balance of policy interests that we have here, including not only the public health concerns, but also the public financial, educational, commercial and housing concerns, just to name a few.
As a long-time Texas state citizen, this appears to be a very practical and flexible policy that Governor Abbott and his team are clearly working hard to monitor and maintain in a balanced and considerate way.
Obviously, this is a difficult situation and perfection is not a standard that anybody other than a hyperpartisan a-hole would expect here.
It is not about Governor Abbott. I would expect whoever the governor of Texas is to do approximately what Governor Abbott has been doing with this. So far it is hard to imagine anyone doing a very much better job than he has been, given the circumstances.
Governor Abbott has issued an executive order effective tomorrow requiring face masks in public places in all Texas counties with more than 20 coronavirus cases.
Gov. Greg Abbott issued a nearly statewide mask mandate Thursday as Texas scrambles to get its coronavirus surge under control.
The order requires Texans living in counties with 20 or more positive COVID-19 cases to wear a face covering over the nose and mouth while inside a business or other building open to the public, as well as outdoor public spaces, whenever social distancing is not possible. But it provides several exceptions, including children who are younger than 10 years old, people who have a medical condition that prevents them from wearing a mask, people who are eating or drinking and people who are exercising outdoors.
The mask order goes into effect at 12:01 p.m. Friday.
He is apparently concerned about the pace that the virus is spreading. The local authorities can enforce this initially with a warning, and then subsequently with a fine up to $250. It will no doubt come as a huge disappointment to the Democrat leaders of the large urban counties that they do not have the authority to jail anyone in connection with this order.
In any case, as a result of the caution and restraint Governor Abbott has shown, I trust his judgment on this. He clearly is prioritizing keeping the state of Texas open for business, which is certainly better than what the governors of some other states are doing.
That being said, I think this appears to be excessive. However, I will comply, because he has demonstrated that he is not a totalitarian control freak or someone who is inclined to make policy based on pressure from the "mob".
Governor Abbott has issued an executive order effective tomorrow requiring face masks in public places in all Texas counties with more than 20 coronavirus cases.
He is apparently concerned about the pace that the virus is spreading. The local authorities can enforce this initially with a warning, and then subsequently with a fine up to $250. It will no doubt come as a huge disappointment to the Democrat leaders of the large urban counties that they do not have the authority to jail anyone in connection with this order.
In any case, as a result of the caution and restraint Governor Abbott has shown, I trust his judgment on this. He clearly is prioritizing keeping the state of Texas open for business, which is certainly better than what the governors of some other states are doing.
That being said, I think this appears to be excessive. However, I will comply, because he has demonstrated that he is not a totalitarian control freak or someone who is inclined to make policy based on pressure from the "mob".
Sure and it only took him four months to come around to such a simple measure, what a great leader and visionary! “He is apparently worried about the spread of the virus” Lol
This is just a really good article on what is happening in Texas right now. It's basically saying this is bad...really bad...But...the health care professionals have had time to prepare by learning lessons of what happened in NY metro area.
If you have more cases, you are going to have more hospitalizations and unfortunately more deaths. The US economy Will Not recover until we get a handle on this...and right now we don't. "Prince" Jared said we were going to be on a huge upswing by July....yet according to https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us we had over 57k new cases today, that means Americans are going to suffer from the loss of loved ones, not being able to earn an income and the US Treasury has turned on the printing presses 24/7 to prop up the living nightmare this country is going through right now. ALL OF THIS WAS AVOIDABLE.
As coronavirus cases skyrocket across Texas, hospitals grapple with patient influxes
Gov. Greg Abbott (R), who was among the first governors to reopen businesses on May 1, again closed bars and limited restaurant capacity last week. Abbott prohibited municipalities from implementing mandates on mask wearing and social distancing, but on Friday he required all people in counties with more than 20 coronavirus cases to wear masks while in public.
With the virus showing no signs of abating, some hospitals have to look elsewhere for beds for coronavirus patients. Harris Health System, which serves many uninsured patients in Houston and Harris County, has been transferring patients to other hospitals for days. Some are being sent as far as Conroe and Galveston.
More updates on the situation at Texas hospitals. The bad news is that the number of patients keeps growing and they're running out of Remdesivir. The good news is that doctors and nurses are learning best practices from colleagues around the world who have already dealt with this, and the patients they are seeing are not as sick.
Surgical face masks are the only effective weapon against Covid-19 but at least 80% of the population have to wear them to work. 95% of the population here in Taiwan started wearing them in February when the Taiwan CDC urged us to and Covid-19 was defeated by April. Today we’re virus free and on the verge of joining a regional bubble of other countries who put their big boy pants on early and got the job done.
Texas is not New York. Just FYI, since you appear to be unclear on this point.
Correct. But the virus does not care about political parties or Greg Abbott's overwhelming concern for our economy. As for your claim that we have plenty of medical care available, that is actually the fake news. My wife works for Memorial Hermann in Harris County, and they have converted every available ward into an ICU and are still running out of space. They are now transferring patients to other hospitals, who are attempting to transfer their overflow to them.
And if you don't believe me, consider how many cases of the virus it took before Greg Abbott simply required us to wear masks. It became a huge problem before he finally admitted it was a problem. And the implication that the virus only sickens old people so protecting them from infection is pointless, is distasteful anyway. "Nana is old, so why bother protecting her? She's not long for the world anyway and making money is a lot more important."
Correct. But the virus does not care about political parties or Greg Abbott's overwhelming concern for our economy. As for your claim that we have plenty of medical care available, that is actually the fake news. My wife works for Memorial Hermann in Harris County, and they have converted every available ward into an ICU and are still running out of space. They are now transferring patients to other hospitals, who are attempting to transfer their overflow to them.
And if you don't believe me, consider how many cases of the virus it took before Greg Abbott simply required us to wear masks. It became a huge problem before he finally admitted it was a problem. And the implication that the virus only sickens old people so protecting them from infection is pointless, is distasteful anyway. "Nana is old, so why bother protecting her? She's not long for the world anyway and making money is a lot more important."
As you know very well, virtually nobody believes that this virus "only sickens old people". And your vile comment about not being concerned about protecting old people comes from you and nobody else.
With regards to Harris County hospital capacity, it is your post that is misleading and therefore 'fake news'. Are some of the hospitals starting to fill up? Yes, sure. Are there more hospitals with capacity close by? Yes. Are there provisional plans in place to expand that capacity further? As you know very well, yes, there are.
I do not believe your comment that Memorial Hermann has "converted every available ward into an ICU". That sounds like more of the same sort of fabricated, dishonest leftist bullcrap that we have become all too familiar with over the last 12 years.
In any case, the facts are that hospitalization numbers are increasing rapidly and that we are now going through what appears to be our peak time with this virus. It is also the case that the death rate is way down and that people are not getting nearly as sick from this virus here as they apparently did in New York. That is good news, however loathe you may be to admit that. Still, the situation is clearly serious and needs to be managed in a diligent and responsible manner, and it looks like Governor Abbott and his team are doing that.
I think it is terrible how eagerly you people seem to be politicizing this situation and all but cheering for the worst results, so that you can try to use that as some sort of political tool. Absolutely disgusting.
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