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NYC has had so many COVID-19 deaths that they needed refrigerated trucks to store the bodies at both hospitals and funeral homes. They were so overwhelmed that they've been doing mass burials in potter's field on Hart Island.
OP---You were wondering where the "mass casualties" are, well there's ^^^^your answer.
For those who say this is no worse than the flu, name one city in the US that, during flu season, had to use refrigerated trucks to store the bodies of victims.
Some have no government measures at all, some only have "recommendations" (meaning no measures), some have only localized measures, some have national measures.
* The situation is well under control everywhere. Maybe there were some localized cases in Italy where numbers exceeded hospital capacity for a short period of time, but this happens every year.
* There has been no country where the numbers shoot up for more than a few weeks. All follow the same trend of a curve of 1-2 months which is typical of respiratory viruses.
So you're not old enough to remember all those flag draped coffins arriving back on the tarmac during the Vietnam war. That caused a national uproar and there were "only" 58,000 deaths spread over ten years or so.
Unnecessary deaths of their fellow citizens used to cause people far more concern than today's spoiled brats..
Gathered some data from worldometer. Here are the countries where the situation has been desribed as apocolyptic:
* Italy: Cases clearly disappearing, 0.05% death rate overall
* Spain: Cases clearly disappearing, 0.05% death rate overall
* USA: Too early to say, 0.02% death rate overall
* UK: Too early to say, 0.04% death rate overall
* Iran: Cases clearly disappearing, 0.007% death rate overall
Are there any countries where the overall death rate has exceeded 0.1% of the population?
The overall death rate for the world is 0.003%.
Now there 195 countries in the world. You would think that, given how many countries and not done any type of shutdown, and given how contagious and deadely we are lead to believe the virus is, there would be at least 1 example where the virus had caused the situation we were told about where gazillions are sprawling on the streets dying while stadiums are filled with used hospital beds.
How about Lagos, Nigeria (pictured below)? You would think the virus hasn't hit there? Imagine how much it would (supposedly) spread and how many people would die.
"It's going to come back 2x as bad in Fall/Winter!" Ok, so the chance of surviving this virus goes from 99.997% to 99.994%? Scary!
How many you need to get your approval for it being a real pandemic?
Where is the national uproar over 600k+ Americans in coffins due to cancer every year?
there are cancer runs and all kinds of donations to eradicate Cancer-- went after Big tobacco and warning labels in everything...yelled about bad water bad air- bad food- we did get upset about cancer. My mom had breast cancer- I know.
But Cancer is NOT contagious from on person to another- 2- passed by unknown carriers- or killing so many folks in a short time frame.
just stop it. Maybe wont be happy until you see someone you -----
The Trump admin turned down an offer from Prestige Ameritech to restart shutdown production lines and make millions of N95 masks in the USA! Does anyone still doubt that Trump just wants this to go away and does not care how many Americans die in pushing his lies? How many people, health care workers, lost their lives becaue of this? Trump is the equivalent of a mass murderer.
Many prior posts exist here on C-D blaming politicians from decades ago for China manufacturing N95 masks instead of American based companies , as one of the reasons for the mask shortage, and they stated this wasn't Trump's fault.
Ends up this US based N95 mask manufacturer offered the US Government in January 2020 to open additional production lines to create many millions of N95 masks per month. I guess this US based mask manufacturer didn't donate enough money to the Republican party, so the Trump administration ignored his offer to beef up production of masks for the USA and instead the Trump admin hand picked other companies that donated huge amts of money to Republicans. As a result, the USA got fewer masks, for 5x the price, and a longer wait time.
All the PPE suppliers were hand picked by Kuschner's team, based on tips from GOP politicians and members of Trump's staff. The US Government only signed contracts with big GOP donors. This mask company could have provided more masks, earlier, for a massive costs savings to the US taxpayers. Trump's team chose politics over saving money and saving American lives.
You're right. When all is said and done, after an all-out national effort, we'll have maybe 125,000-150,000 Americans dead. It's scarcely worth talking about. And if we did nothing, maybe we'd have 500,000-1,000,000 dead. Who cares?
Last year 2,813,503 people died in America. Roughly a death rate of 863 per 100,000 people.
Of those, heart disease was #1 at 647,457
If you took the two categories of Chronic Respiratory Illness (160,201 dead) and influenza/pneumonia (55,672) totaling 215,873 deaths, well Corona Virus may increase that little bit, but, I really don't see this is being anything more that "slightly above average" figures
Where are the coronavirus mass casulaties? This is a "pandemic"?
This episode of Sesame Street is brought to you by the letter's "E" and "P" and the number "12."
The definition of epidemic is more disease than anticipated in a given time frame in a specific locale.
So, how's that work?
One person showing up in a one of China's 33,000 hospitals in September with influenza-like symptoms is not an epidemic.
12 people showing up over the course of a month in hospitals in October in Hubei Province is not an epidemic.
12 people showing up during the month of November in a single hospital in Wuhan is not an epidemic.
But, 16 people showing up at a single hospital within 72 hours all with the same symptoms is an epidemic.
The word "pan" means wide-spread. When we prefix "epidemic" with "pan" we mean that is is wide-spread, which means it could be State-wide, region-wide, continental or the whole world.
Regarding casualties, I know a fireman who looks after the fire.
When a house catches fire, you can do nothing and let it burn down and then hope it doesn't spread to other buildings, or you can intervene.
If you intervene in a timely manner, you can put the fire out before it does a lot of damage and before it spreads to other structures.
That's why you don't have mass casualties, because there was intervention to reduce casualties.
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