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Actually you are listening to a doctor who has an outlier opinion of the data and science compared to other doctors. You are not listening to the full story on the data and science here. You are listening to data and science being cherry picked by two doctors who own an Urgent Care Clinic.
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I"m not sure why you are trying to discredit the doctors.
I will discredit any doctor who offers unsound advice.
Looks as if other doctors are also disputing Doctors Dan Erickson and Artin Massihi.
At first, maybe so. But we could've had a more measured, less panicked approach and not shut every single thing down. Catastrophic to the economy.
Again thank Trump for why there was not a smooth plan put into place. He acted too late and what drove the panic was the number of cases and deaths being reported daily in the news.
Yes people realized that this virus is no joke and is very deadly and contagious...and it does not discriminate.
The NY Times is not a scienctiic model nor a science journal.
This should be a good lesson for you. Never obtain scientific knowledge from a news journal. Turn to actual science and the actual source. You will never get the real story when reading a news journal.
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Trump's response team did a fair job, but could've been better, could've been worse.
Not even close to doing a fair response. I see you failed to watch the video.
Watch it and then come back and explain how you can call this a fair job.
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Any President would've been somewhat slow to respond, and you can't please everyone.
False. S. Korean government was not slow to respond.
This is not about being pleased. It's about having a competent President who knows how to guide a crisis such as this. But that's unfortunately not what we have in the White House is it?
Actually you are listening to a doctor who has an outlier opinion of the data and science compared to other doctors. You are not listening to the full story on the data and science here. You are listening to data and science being cherry picked by two doctors who own an Urgent Care Clinic.
I will discredit any doctor who offers unsound advice.
Looks as if other doctors are also disputing Doctors Dan Erickson and Artin Massihi.
As I write this, there are about 3 million cases of COVID-19 confirmed worldwide. Nearly 1 million are in the U.S. That’s 33%
The world population stands at 7.8 billion. The U.S. population at 331 million. That’s 4.2%, if my math is correct.
4% of the population. 33% of the cases.
As I’m writing this, the up-to-the-minute reported stats show 206,350 deaths worldwide. The U.S. just passed 55,000 deaths. So, 4% of the world population. 27% of the deaths.
That’s how bad a job the U.S. is doing in controlling the spread of the disease.
But the question is, does the "overreaction" include shutting down entire economies, schools, retail/restaurants, governments and all facets of daily life, so folks can hide inside their homes panicked?
That is what is in question here. Governments raced to shut down everything, based off theoretical models--which have proven to be inaccurate.
Maybe the closures and shut downs should've been much more measured at the start. The CDC and WHO pushed this panic onto governments, and media took it and ran giddily with it.
Damage has been done, and much of it is very long term.
Agreed, and I keep wondering, why is THIS virus so different than the others that have presented such a potential threat to mankind (ie, SARS, MERS, , EBOLA, various influenza strains over the years) that the Powers That Be felt it expedient to virtually shut down the global economy, put irrational fear into the masses, over its potential spread. Doesn't make sense.
Actually you are listening to a doctor who has an outlier opinion of the data and science compared to other doctors. You are not listening to the full story on the data and science here. You are listening to data and science being cherry picked by two doctors who own an Urgent Care Clinic.
I will discredit any doctor who offers unsound advice.
Looks as if other doctors are also disputing Doctors Dan Erickson and Artin Massihi.
Be wary of two doctors who own their own clinic. They just want the revenue to flow for them again.
Well sure, most self employed docs are in that place right now.
But also, they are coming from the right...
"If you're going to dance on someone's constitutional rights you better have a good reason"
As a physician coming from the left, we have to all realize that the goal is to get us all back to work while reasonably ensuring the safety of those at most risk from the virus. Not an easy task of course. But we are closer to moving in that direction, as the virus evolves on its time line, and we learn more about it. My state Arizona is soon to start to reopen. General business and medical.
Agreed, and I keep wondering, why is THIS virus so different than the others that have presented such a potential threat to mankind (ie, SARS, MERS, , EBOLA, various influenza strains over the years) that the Powers That Be felt it expedient to virtually shut down the global economy, put irrational fear into the masses, over its potential spread. Doesn't make sense.
Those other viruses never reached a stage where local acute HC facilities were over run. They never reached an Italy moment, which was the catalyst that ignited global medical and societal shutdown.
This lockdown and shutdown will have inflicted more financial damage and death, long term, than this COVID-19 virus has in the short term.
The lawsuits will come, and governments should be held accountable for ignorance. Whereas media should be held accountable for sensationlist, fear-mongering narratives and consistent panic-pushing 24/7.
The lack of any type of caring that you have for human life is pretty interesting. Keep that up and the lawsuits will be for you as people can see now that this is the type of attitude that got people into the pandemic.
Dr. Erickson is extrapolating from the percent positive in testing so far and claiming that this same percentage would hold for the entire state of NY, and the entire USA. Given that in most places testing has been limited to those showing symptoms, this is unwarranted. He says:
"They likely have 7.5 million cases in NY"
No. It's very unlikely that the prevalence of COVID-19 in the untested is as high as in the tested population.
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