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If it increased the risk of death they wouldn't have been using it for 30 years, against malaria and lupus patients, common sense tells you the drug cannot tell the difference between those patients and Corona Patients, which is now what they would have you believe. Period....it would have been off the market years ago....
Go ahead, take it.
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The study found a 34% increase in risk of mortality and a 137% increase in risk of a serious heart arrhythmia for patients who were given hydroxychloroquine. Patients who received hydroxychloroquine and an antiobiotic, similar to the regimen Trump said he was taking, saw a 411% increase in risk of serious heart arrhythmias.
It means we have a Trumper who claims to work in an ICU where all the COVID patients magically get better when they get hydroxychloroquine.
That's pretty much all it means.
Actually in practice it means quite a bit more in scope and kind. I would not anticipate that you would understand either of those so I am being intentionally low key here. The medication however is anything but low key. We as a team are impressed when it works with certain patients.
There are always risk to benefit with any medication we use to solve medical puzzles. In these times of life threatening and sudden illness with many decisions rapidly called for, we do our best. We make choices based upon evidence, gut feel and empiric therapy.
It means we have a Trumper who claims to work in an ICU where all the COVID patients magically get better when they get hydroxychloroquine.
That's pretty much all it means.
One has to take a lot of the claims with a grain of salt. Some that make those claims actually demonstrate that their medical knowledge is quite limited but their devotion to Trump is infinite.
Here's the results from a very recent study:
"For those given hydroxychloroquine, there was a 34 percent increase in risk of mortality and a 137 percent increased risk of a serious heart arrhythmias. For those receiving hydroxychloroquine and an antibiotic — the cocktail endorsed by Trump — there was a 45 percent increased risk of death and a 411 percent increased risk of serious heart arrhythmias."
While a study published in the Lancet medical journal is nothing compared to the claims made by devoted Trump supporters; one has to choose who is actually correct.
Definitely not a Trumper here, but if one reads AADAD posts, his comments are always qualified - with the words "certain patients," "in those who get better." He nowhere says it works for everyone and/or is appropriate for everyone. Further, upthread he outlined a very short-term two-three day protocol for those in early stages of the disease. I am assuming anyone with a history of cardiac issues would not be a candidate or would be monitored in hospital very carefully.
Definitely not a Trumper here, but if one reads AADAD posts, his comments are always qualified - with the words "certain patients," "in those who get better." He nowhere says it works for everyone and/or is appropriate for everyone. Further, upthread he outlined a very short-term two-three day protocol for those in early stages of the disease. I am assuming anyone with a history of cardiac issues would not be a candidate or would be monitored in hospital very carefully.
I'm not speaking about any particular poster. The study said the medication resulted in a 34% increase in the risk of mortality. It resulted in a 137% increase in risk of heart arrhythmias. That's a lot.
Adding the antibiotic Trump is touting increased risk of death by 45% and 411% risk of serious heart arrhythmias. One has to assume those receiving the medication(s) had already been determined to be less of a risk before receiving them so that is not exactly a good result.
No. there are potential complications side effects with all medications.
well, yes, this I know, and have known since a kid...there are side effects with over the counter meds...
but....
please explain to me, why they've been using this drug for 30 some years and now all of a sudden, it causes heart complications....
I don't get it?
I'm not speaking about any particular poster. The study said the medication resulted in a 34% increase in the risk of mortality. It resulted in a 137% increase in risk of heart arrhythmias. That's a lot.
Adding the antibiotic Trump is touting increased risk of death by 45% and 411% risk of serious heart arrhythmias. One has to assume those receiving the medication(s) had already been determined to be less of a risk before receiving them so that is not exactly a good result.
Sorry for the confusion. I wasn't responding to you, which is why I specifically mentioned AADAD who was being challenged upthread, implying AADAD was not weighing the risks which, imo, is not the case.
I agree there is definitely a risk factor. Trump shouldn't be taking this every day ad infinitum. I heard yesterday on CNN, I believe, Trump's was also a short-term protocol.
Sorry for the confusion. I wasn't responding to you, which is why I specifically mentioned AADAD who was being challenged upthread for his use of the drug implying AADAD was not weighing the risks. I doubt that to be true.
That poster says they are a nurse; doubt a nurse would be making such decisions anyway.
That poster says they are a nurse; doubt a nurse would be making such decisions anyway.
lol...well, now I'm really confused. Best I shut up now. Thank you.
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