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Old 05-04-2020, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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solid evidence that clearly shows Trump downplaying this virus and doing nothing but ignorant false statements lip service for the first 6 weeks after the WHO sounded the alarm.
Not only that, Trump shoots the messenger when the message doesn't fit his agenda. I read a while back Azar knew early on coronavirus was going to be a big problem, notified the WH several times, but avoided direct discussions w/Trump for fear of retaliation.

 
Old 05-04-2020, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Just remember that these CV death numbers are very padded and "bogus" - it's all about the $ (and some of it politically motivated IMO) as a death by CV even though it really isn't = more $ anyway.


Dr. Birx even said so about the CV death numbers.
Just remember there are a lot of cases being missed.
 
Old 05-04-2020, 05:09 PM
 
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Just remember there are a lot of cases being missed.
There is a certain segment of our population that won't believe in this until they catch it. Or their family catches it. And then, their reaction to it will only be comparable to what they faced. If it was no biggie for them then it ain't something to worry about. If it floored them, then they will be screaming from the rooftops.

That's it, they're stupid people, who can only react to things that happen to them.
 
Old 05-04-2020, 05:12 PM
 
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Just remember that these CV death numbers are very padded and "bogus" - it's all about the $ (and some of it politically motivated IMO) as a death by CV even though it really isn't = more $ anyway.


Dr. Birx even said so about the CV death numbers.
Just remember, this poster is just making s- up. Nobody knows, especially know some schmoe posting here.
 
Old 05-04-2020, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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The fact that Trump came out with "guidelines" for opening and within a couple of days was encouraging governors and citizens to violate the guidelines seems to be lost upon the Trump cult.

The fact that right wing news outlets are STILL insisting that this response is a hoax while Trump claims that if it wasn't for him there would be millions of deaths also seems to be lost on these people.

If a democrat had claimed two weeks ago that deaths would max out at 50,000, be wrong and now claim that deaths would be maxing out at 100,000 the same right wing posters would be all over that democrat like a duck on a cricket.

But instead we just get the crickets.
Its difficult to keep up with Trump, one minute its going away then its 50,000 deaths and now 100,000. He should really stay out of the prediction business and his medical cures.
 
Old 05-04-2020, 05:15 PM
 
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Luc Montagnier, the Man Who Discovered HIV, says that COVID19 is man-made in origin:

https://www.gilmorehealth.com/chines...iscovered-hiv/
Yeah, that's not what the PEER REVIEWED science says. Your appeal to authority is a logical fallacy that fails.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0820-9

https://www.dw.com/en/did-coronaviru...ory/a-53171292
 
Old 05-04-2020, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Just remember that these CV death numbers are very padded and "bogus" - it's all about the $ (and some of it politically motivated IMO) as a death by CV even though it really isn't = more $ anyway.


Dr. Birx even said so about the CV death numbers.

They aren't padded or bogus, death statistics are always a moving target. Deaths from diseases like flu are estimates, never intended to be 100% accurate. But at this point with over 60,000 deaths you are splitting hairs.
 
Old 05-04-2020, 05:19 PM
 
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It won’t save the economy. I’m at a restaurant with my wife now. There’s no other customers.

It’s pretty safe lol
Lots of our local restaurants aren't ready to open up -- patio only -- so they are continuing their curbside. The meals that have been available are amazing.
 
Old 05-04-2020, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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Yes this is exactly why the US is in our current situation.

The die hard Trump fans are in complete denial of the solid facts and solid evidence that clearly shows Trump downplaying this virus and doing nothing but ignorant false statements lip service for the first 6 weeks after the WHO sounded the alarm.
Feb 5th. You don't need to watch once it goes off the SOTU, other than remembering the Leader of the House of Representatives ripped up the speech afterwards and this was how the WaPo covered it:

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The California Democrat, in a dramatic gesture after Trump finished speaking Tuesday evening, shredded a copy of his words while standing on the dais behind him. On Wednesday morning, a visibly irritated Pelosi told her colleagues in a closed-door meeting that she was looking for “one page I could spare that didn’t have a lie on it” and couldn’t find it — and she had no regrets about what she did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQUFqIKNZG0
 
Old 05-04-2020, 05:32 PM
 
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Not only that, Trump shoots the messenger when the message doesn't fit his agenda. I read a while back Azar knew early on coronavirus was going to be a big problem, notified the WH several times, but avoided direct discussions w/Trump for fear of retaliation.



You read.....and cannot back it up....go figure....
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