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Where is the national uproar over 600k+ Americans in coffins due to cancer every year?
We have a National Cancer Institute! There has been a huge research effort for cancer understanding and treatments for nearly 50 years now - ever since Richard Nixon declared the "War on Cancer" a national priority! OMG.
Gathered some data from worldometer. Here are the countries where the situation has been desribed as apocolyptic:
* Italy: Cases clearly disappearing, 0.05% death rate overall
* Spain: Cases clearly disappearing, 0.05% death rate overall
* USA: Too early to say, 0.02% death rate overall
* UK: Too early to say, 0.04% death rate overall
* Iran: Cases clearly disappearing, 0.007% death rate overall
Are there any countries where the overall death rate has exceeded 0.1% of the population?
The overall death rate for the world is 0.003%.
Now there 195 countries in the world. You would think that, given how many countries and not done any type of shutdown, and given how contagious and deadely we are lead to believe the virus is, there would be at least 1 example where the virus had caused the situation we were told about where gazillions are sprawling on the streets dying while stadiums are filled with used hospital beds.
How about Lagos, Nigeria (pictured below)? You would think the virus hasn't hit there? Imagine how much it would (supposedly) spread and how many people would die.
"It's going to come back 2x as bad in Fall/Winter!" Ok, so the chance of surviving this virus goes from 99.997% to 99.994%? Scary!
Until A vaccine is developed, the body count will continue (and will get worse as cold weather hits or a some mutation of the virus). Almost 80k dead in just a few months and no cure in sight? Yes I say this IS bad, because theres nothing to stop it. Its level off a bit only because of warm weather.
70k today, 700k tomorrow, 7 million eventually
Death rate for this virus is NOT .1% as some would like to believe. It is 10x that - 1% of the population - and 10x that of the flu.
Which means without social distancing/mitigation over 3,000,000 US citizens could die from this in the next year or thereabouts.
I dislike the shutdown and restrictions as much as anyone. The economic harm will be irreparable. Some say 10 years to 'recovery.' And, then, of course, there will be another black swan.
A vaccine may or may not doable. I've read over and over no one has had any success developing a vaccine for a coronavirus - something to do with it being a RNA+ molecule - and scientists have been trying for years.
Our best hope is improving treatment options and therapeutics. Meanwhile, social distancing, masks, cautious reopening where appropriate, better awareness overall on prevention methods.
25% of NYC, over 2 million people in just one city, have been infected. Sure, the quarantine worked.... The "lockdown" is one of the biggest failures in history.
We had 35,000 deaths from flu last year without social distancing.
In two months COVID-19 has already killed 70,000 in 2 months with social distancing.
Who are these people saying it’s no worse than the flu???
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Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake
25% of NYC, over 2 million people in just one city, have been infected. Sure, the quarantine worked.... The "lockdown" is one of the biggest failures in history.
I would say most of the infections happened before shutdown, because of how contagious and infectious this disease is in high density areas. This was spreading before anyone knew it was here.
Until A vaccine is developed, the body count will continue (and will get worse as cold weather hits or a some mutation of the virus). Almost 80k dead in just a few months and no cure in sight? Yes I say this IS bad, because theres nothing to stop it. Its level off a bit only because of warm weather.
70k today, 700k tomorrow, 7 million eventually
Warm weather (actually, more importantly, sunlight) weakens the virus-the half-life drops from 18 hours to 2 minutes. Meaning that if you are exposed, it will most likely be a lower viral load with milder, if any, symptoms. Sunlight and warmth strengthens our immune systems. Most of us WILL be exposed as infectious as this thing is. I'd much rather it happen in the summer rather than next winter.
I have no problem with additional testing for national leaders. What I do have a problem with is them simultaneously running around without masks. That is the height of hypocrisy. It is irresponsible and, even worse, despicable as Trump then uses not wearing a mask or setting a 'good' example for his political benefit. If it makes him feel awkward, then he needs to get over it. Millions of other Americans are trying to.
Wear a mask, wash your hands, maintain physical distance.
Do these things, and no one will get infected, let alone die.
I largely do that but I see a LOT of people that dont wear any coverings and don't try to social distance. It isn't me I'm worried about. I have two at risk parents I worry about. One has a weakened immune system and the other is cancer paitent. I live with them and help them out... My father had a test and it was negative. Without his immune issues, I doubt he would have gotten tested.
25% of NYC, over 2 million people in just one city, have been infected. Sure, the quarantine worked.... The "lockdown" is one of the biggest failures in history.
Because they took action way too late, that is why, hence the advocacy for taking actions before things got bad, not after. That is the thing with viruses, the actions have to come before there is a huge spread, not after.
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Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake
Warm weather (actually, more importantly, sunlight) weakens the virus-the half-life drops from 18 hours to 2 minutes. Meaning that if you are exposed, it will most likely be a lower viral load with milder, if any, symptoms. Sunlight and warmth strengthens our immune systems. Most of us WILL be exposed as infectious as this thing is. I'd much rather it happen in the summer rather than next winter.
Miami has been hot for months, never even got cold here all year at all, yet it is a hot spot for the virus.
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The "lockdown" is one of the biggest failures in history.