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Old 05-09-2020, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Originally Posted by BOS2IAD View Post
NYC has had so many COVID-19 deaths that they needed refrigerated trucks to store the bodies at both hospitals and funeral homes. They were so overwhelmed that they've been doing mass burials in potter's field on Hart Island.

https://theintercept.com/2020/04/22/...new-york-city/

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-w...or-coronavirus

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...d-burials.html

https://nypost.com/2020/04/18/corona...-dirty-packed/

OP---You were wondering where the "mass casualties" are, well there's ^^^^your answer.

For those who say this is no worse than the flu, name one city in the US that, during flu season, had to use refrigerated trucks to store the bodies of victims.
It's still worse than the flu. Some people sick from COVID-19 had to be hospitalized for a month or two. So who wants to take a chance getting it?

 
Old 05-09-2020, 07:31 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Originally Posted by CrownVic95 View Post
Just the latest episode in the series of sociopolitical debacles that have made us shake our heads in disbelief for the last 30 years. Yes, this lock-down idea was the most misguided government action we've seen at least since committing American ground combat troops in Viet Nam. And this, when all is said and done, will likely easily surpass Viet Nam in total damage done to the nation.

And the damage has nothing to do with the virus - it all stems from disastrous and hysterical over-reaction to it.

This has also been Trumps first and only major boondoggle so far, as he abandoned his innate leadership instinct and let himself be wired as a puppet controlled by strings completely devoid of national leadership perspective. He knew better and should have trusted his gut. And he continued to confuse and waffle even after his gut was proven to be right.

Yeah, this is a pandemic, alright. So's the common cold....every year.
This I'll agree with. Trump allowed himself to be driven to issue the lockdown recommendations, on the basis of badly flawed predictions from his medical "experts". I expect he believed Fauchi when he predicted 2-5 million dead Americans, something horrible to contemplate. And he SHOULD have been able to switch course and revise the federal "guidelines" long before May 1st as we learned that the bug, while serious, is nowhere near what the FUD crowd was predicting.
 
Old 05-09-2020, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Pacific 🌉 °N, 🌄°W
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OK, I'm going to be a ball-buster.
From that link:
indicates ≠ verifies
potential ≠ certainty
unclear. Self-explanatory.
There's that word again ! unclear
Nope you did not bust any balls. You're not familiar with how science papers are written.

Those words are purposely used in most scientific papers.
 
Old 05-09-2020, 07:43 PM
 
Location: West Coast U.S.A.
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Originally Posted by porcupinethief View Post
Gathered some data from worldometer. Here are the countries where the situation has been desribed as apocolyptic:

* Italy: Cases clearly disappearing, 0.05% death rate overall
* Spain: Cases clearly disappearing, 0.05% death rate overall
* USA: Too early to say, 0.02% death rate overall
* UK: Too early to say, 0.04% death rate overall
* Iran: Cases clearly disappearing, 0.007% death rate overall

Are there any countries where the overall death rate has exceeded 0.1% of the population?

The overall death rate for the world is 0.003%. ...
Worldometer shows an overall death rate of 2%, not 0.003%.
 
Old 05-09-2020, 07:43 PM
 
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It's still worse than the flu. Some people sick from COVID-19 had to be hospitalized for a month or two. So who wants to take a chance getting it?
I certainly agree it's worse than the flu. Thus my comment asking the doubters what city had to have refrigerated trucks around due to victims of the flu. Of course, the answer is no city needed such trucks for the flu.

And, yes, no one, who is informed as to the deleterious effects of it, wants to take a chance getting COVID-19. After all, we've all heard the stories about healthy people with no comorbidities dying from it. Just as we've heard of those with comorbidities who recover from it.
 
Old 05-09-2020, 07:58 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Originally Posted by Ariadne22 View Post
And the moon is made of blue cheese. I get it.
That moon is orange cheddar!! It only looks blue because the leftists painted it with FAKE blue cheese. Make the moon great again!!....

This is sarcasm but it's meant to mimic the level of absurdity that is very real and exists in many of the posts on this forum.
 
Old 05-09-2020, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Pacific 🌉 °N, 🌄°W
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Originally Posted by JG183 View Post
OK, I'm going to be a ball-buster.
From that link:
indicates ≠ verifies
potential ≠ certainty
unclear. Self-explanatory.
There's that word again ! unclear
Now I'm going to be the ball-buster.

From that link you should have found the actual study.

If you are not comfortable with reading a science research paper or want to get to the jest of it...simply read the Abstract and the Discussion.

Discussion

In this article, we provide evidence for gastrointestinal infection of SARS-CoV-2 and its possible fecal-oral transmission route. Because viruses spread from infected to uninfected cells, viral-specific target cells or organs are determinants of viral transmission routes. Receptor mediated viral entry into a host cell is the first step of viral infection. Our immunofluorescent data showed that ACE2 protein, which has been proven to be a cell receptor for SARS-CoV-2, is abundantly expressed in the glandular cells of gastric, duodenal, and rectal epithelia, supporting the entry of SARS-CoV-2 into the host cells. ACE2 staining is rarely seen in esophageal mucosa, probably because the esophageal epithelium is mainly composed of squamous epithelial cells, which express less ACE2 than glandular epithelial cells.

Our results of SARS-CoV-2 RNA detection and intracellular staining of viral nucleocapsid protein in gastric, duodenal, and rectal epithelia demonstrate that SARS-CoV-2 infects these gastrointestinal glandular epithelial cells.

Although viral RNA was also detected in esophageal mucous tissue, absence of viral nucleocapsid protein staining in esophageal mucosa indicates low viral infection in esophageal mucosa.

After viral entry, virus-specific RNA and proteins are synthesized in the cytoplasm to assemble new virions, which can be released to the gastrointestinal tract. The continuous positive detection of viral RNA from feces suggests that the infectious virions are secreted from the virus infected gastrointestinal cells. Recently, we and others have isolated infectious SARS-CoV-2 from stool (unpublished data, 2020), confirming the release of the infectious virions to the gastrointestinal tract. Therefore, fecal-oral transmission could be an additional route for viral spread. Prevention of fecal-oral transmission should be taken into consideration to control the spread of the virus

Source: Evidence for Gastrointestinal Infection of SARS-CoV-2
 
Old 05-09-2020, 08:08 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake View Post
Cute story. If only it were true...

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/cor...242270081.html
Well, that article was last updated on 05/07.

Yesterday, on 05/08 there were 794 new cases, compared to 353 the day before.
 
Old 05-09-2020, 08:13 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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Many prior posts exist here on C-D blaming politicians from decades ago for China manufacturing N95 masks instead of American based companies , as one of the reasons for the mask shortage, and they stated this wasn't Trump's fault.

Ends up this US based N95 mask manufacturer offered the US Government in January 2020 to open additional production lines to create many millions of N95 masks per month. I guess this US based mask manufacturer didn't donate enough money to the Republican party, so the Trump administration ignored his offer to beef up production of masks for the USA and instead the Trump admin hand picked other companies that donated huge amts of money to Republicans. As a result, the USA got fewer masks, for 5x the price, and a longer wait time.

All the PPE suppliers were hand picked by Kuschner's team, based on tips from GOP politicians and members of Trump's staff. The US Government only signed contracts with big GOP donors. This mask company could have provided more masks, earlier, for a massive costs savings to the US taxpayers. Trump's team chose politics over saving money and saving American lives.
you know, there's a chance you're right. And if so, it would be a major stain on the Administration. I wonder why the WaPo didn't go ahead and pursue that.
 
Old 05-09-2020, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Originally Posted by DorianRo View Post
Until A vaccine is developed, the body count will continue (and will get worse as cold weather hits or a some mutation of the virus). Almost 80k dead in just a few months and no cure in sight? Yes I say this IS bad, because theres nothing to stop it. Its level off a bit only because of warm weather.

70k today, 700k tomorrow, 7 million eventually
*of obese and elderly

Let’s stop pretending the young or healthy are dropping like flies over this.

For thousands of years, we told people to not be fat or smoke, lo and behold this is another reason why.

Future generations are still safe, this is far from the apocalypse
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