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Old 04-29-2020, 02:42 PM
 
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Sadly if thats the nly option, Indians will do that to stay. So dont come back whining that they have taken that jobs also.
Better to have people who are here legally doing those jobs than to have illegals doing them. In fact, in some of those plants refugees are doing the work.
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Old 04-29-2020, 02:44 PM
 
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Better to have people who are here legally doing those jobs than to have illegals doing them. In fact, in some of those plants refugees are doing the work.
Refugees are legal.
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Old 04-29-2020, 02:47 PM
 
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Why are you defending H1-Bs? Do you hire them?
Not defending them. Just correcting you.
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Old 04-29-2020, 02:48 PM
 
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Refugees are legal.
In the US, yes. Not everyone on this forum is in the US and may not be familiar with our laws.
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Old 04-29-2020, 02:50 PM
 
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Refugees are legal.


Of course refugees are "legal". Where did I ever say they weren't? Good grief!
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Old 04-29-2020, 02:52 PM
 
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Not defending them. Just correcting you.
Correcting me about, what exactly? If anything your posts come across as defending them.
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Old 04-29-2020, 03:24 PM
 
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You really mean that it is hard to fill positions at the low wages that foreign help will accept than what you would otherwise pay to an equally qualified American.
No, that is not what I mean at all. I probably would have typed that, if I meant it.

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You get what you pay for. Anyone who has ever spoken with great frustration and limited success to off shore tech support with a hard to understand foreign accent can attest to that. The home grown talent is here, you just won’t use it.
Tech support is a junior position, right? So let me just restate:

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The thing is, there are no on-shore junior positions to groom fresh graduates to eventually take on those well-paying, important jobs. You have to crawl before you can walk, and the crawling is all handled overseas.
Lack of people to fill on-shore intermediate and senior position is a direct consequence of the decision to off-shore the junior positions.
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Old 04-29-2020, 03:30 PM
 
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Lack of people to fill on-shore intermediate and senior position is a direct consequence of the decision to off-shore the junior positions.
There is no lack of people. It's all about employers wanting cheap, exploitable labor. Period.
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Old 04-29-2020, 03:50 PM
 
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There is no lack of people. It's all about employers wanting cheap, exploitable labor. Period.
So - if we dropped job-related immigration tomorrow, a few hundred thousand US persons with requisite experience would pop up? From where?

It's a structural problem now.
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Old 04-29-2020, 04:23 PM
 
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So - if we dropped job-related immigration tomorrow, a few hundred thousand US persons with requisite experience would pop up? From where?

It's a structural problem now.
I think you're being overly dramatic with that number.

Yes, there are thousands of unemployed and underemployed American citizen IT workers. There would be no problem filling the void.

The H1-B visa program has become riddled with corruption and fraud. For example, it was never meant to be used to lay off American citizens and replace them with H1-Bs.

I'm sure you know all this. If not, do some googling.
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