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Old 05-01-2020, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Canada
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They were going to ban them anyway, it was already on the agenda long before this latest incident. However, this recent mass murder of 22 people by a gun nut who was using illegally sourced prohibited firearms smuggled in from America was the last straw to break the camel's back so now that agenda has been pushed to the forefront.

The vast majority of Canadians are in full agreement with the ban. Canadians who own ordinary, practical firearms for ordinary, practical hunting and target practice purposes don't have to give up their guns. But the general consensus is that Canadians don't glorify firearms and aren't part of the American gun culture that worships weapons of war that are designed to be used against humans and they don't want firearms like that being allowed in the country.

The ban of those kinds of firearms in Canada should not be of any concern to Americans who are law abiding citizens, since it won't effect them or their American 2nd amendment. The Americans that the Canadian ban might have a negative effect on would be those who are already engaged in dedicated criminal activities re: firearms smuggling into Canada.

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Old 05-01-2020, 01:18 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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If I own a so-called "assault weapon", it's not "to maim and kill as many people as possible in a short time".

It's so that I can tell potential intruders, that they won't succeed in their planned crimes. And back it up.

If the 2nd amendment in this country were upheld, potential intruders would know that they are more likely to risk their lives... and so most of them would likely change their minds and stay out. Bingo - many crimes not committed, and all without a shot being fired.

It's an outcome that the gun-rights-haters absolutely don't want. You have to ask them, Why not?

But with the number of laws restricting or banning guns both here and in Canada, maybe gun owners should invest in a sign like this:

 
Old 05-01-2020, 01:21 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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Saw the article on this. Interesting that what Canadas government considers "military grade assault weapons" is pretty much ALL semi automatic firearms.

Like the Remington 7400. Yea, that's "military grade" all right. Glad I'm not Canadian. I am curious as to how many people in the rural/remote areas of Canada will be rushing to turn in all their semi autos and what Trudeau plans on doing if they don't and tell him to pound sand.

Oh, and expect howls to come from the radical left here in the US for us to follow Canadian lead. I'll get a jump on that now and tell them all to pound sand now.

Most of my firearms are semi auto and by Canadian standards "military grade " Even though only my 1911 is one that has ever been used by any military in the world.

I'll be watching with interest how this pans out in the Great White North. See how folks feel about their semi auto anything being declared contraband. And themselves being declared criminals for that 3 shot 7400 30 06 they've been dropping game with for decades.

1500 firearms are on the list. Not even just evil ARs and Mini 14s. Rifles, shotguns and handguns. This should be very interesting indeed.
 
Old 05-01-2020, 01:22 PM
 
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Murderers, rapists etc. across the land are likely celebrating.

The new laws mean that they can break down doors and commit crimes with impunity, secure in the knowledge that their victims can't shoot back.

As some say in the U.S.:
"Gun Control laws are the criminals' OSHA. They guarantee him a safe working environment."
i'm not familiar with the gun laws in canada but this is only instituting a ban on "assault style" weapons, whatever that means.
I don't think it means pistols or shotguns, or muskets are being banned.

what does assault style even mean? if I shoot you with a bb gun with intent to harm, is that not considered assault?
 
Old 05-01-2020, 01:24 PM
 
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Oh look the country with one of the highest rate of gun violence/gun accidents/gun deaths per capita is judging other countries for their gun policies -- that have much lower rates of .........

What do you all care..
you're right. if it doesn't affect me personally, I don't care.
 
Old 05-01-2020, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Eureka CA
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Good for him!
 
Old 05-01-2020, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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They were going to ban them anyway, it was already on the agenda long before this latest incident. However, this recent mass murder of 22 people by a gun nut who was using illegally sourced prohibited firearms smuggled in from America was the last straw to break the camel's back so now that agenda has been pushed to the forefront.

The vast majority of Canadians are in full agreement with the ban. Canadians who own ordinary, practical firearms for ordinary, practical hunting and target practice purposes don't have to give up their guns. But the general consensus is that Canadians don't glorify firearms and aren't part of the American gun culture that worships weapons of war that are designed to be used against humans and they don't want firearms like that being allowed in the country.

The ban of those kinds of firearms in Canada should not be of any concern to Americans who are law abiding citizens, since it won't effect them or their American 2nd amendment. The Americans that the Canadian ban might have a negative effect on would be those who are already engaged in dedicated criminal activities re: firearms smuggling into Canada.
Again with the magical fictional lines on maps?

When the natural rights of individuals are infringed all moral and logical people regardless of location should be outraged.

When your neighbor's house gets robbed and the bad guys rape his wife do you just say "Oh well, no concern to me. It wasn't my house...this time."

It's like saying you believe (throws a dart at the world map) if Mongolia decides they will kill one man per day for sport it's ok because you don't live in Mongolia.

What is wrong with you people?
 
Old 05-01-2020, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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you're right. if it doesn't affect me personally, I don't care.
Translation: They raped my neighbor's wife. Not mine. I don't care.

C'mon folks. I know 99.9% of you are statists/socialists but have you no sense of decency left after the indoctrination centers/corporate media drilled it out of you?
 
Old 05-01-2020, 01:29 PM
 
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Again with the magical fictional lines on maps?

When the natural rights of individuals are infringed all moral and logical people regardless of location should be outraged.

When your neighbor's house gets robbed and the bad guys rape his wife do you just say "Oh well, no concern to me. It wasn't my house...this time."

It's like saying you believe (throws a dart at the world map) if Mongolia decides they will kill one man per day for sport it's ok because you don't live in Mongolia.

What is wrong with you people?
these lines aren't fictional. different countries and even states have different laws and I have no businesses telling how someone else should run their country.

your analogies are not even remotely close to being an accurate comparison.
there are many injustices happening around the world today and it's not our job to take care of all of them.
unless mongolians cry out for help, and we have the means to help, then we should look into it. i'm sick of us being the world police.
 
Old 05-01-2020, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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I'm a moral persona nd don't feel affronted at all. You did -- that's your feelings and you don't live there. Don't go there. Don't buy Canadian do whatever makes you feel like you showed them but what the heck does it matter.
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First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
Martin Niemöller
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