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I think so. As the economy begins to decline more and more, the government will feel pressure to implement programs that won’t be easy to phase out once this tempest is over. And as it turns out, some very wealthy people see serious problems ahead if unemployment reaches critical mass and the wealthy come off as looking unscathed.
Let’s face it...if we have tens of millions of unemployed, socialism in a heavy dosage is inevitable. It took the Republican Party almost 50 years to dismantle the New Deal, so I can totally understand their fears. It’ll be much harder to dismantle it next time because there’s no bipartisanship anymore at any level.
If things keep going the way they are, I agree with Mark Cuban that there will be a raise in minimum wage, a guaranteed federal jobs program to get people back to work, and I’ll just throw this one in: national health care with a public option.
So maybe some good will come out of this cataclysm. And Democrats shouldn’t shirk from the opportunity to implement those things pronto!
So there you have it - the reason to keep businesses shuttered and people unemployed: the more the leftists succeed in doing that, the more inevitable "socialism in a heavy dosage is inevitable." IOW, the longer we drag this out, the more likely the country will go the way of Venezuela.
We see hints of this on under threads: the "overpaying" people to stay unemployed, essentially giving them twice what they could command on the open market, is a way to force employers to overpay to get them to take a job. The thing that progressives don't get is that overpaying unskilled, poorly educated people doesn't just remove any incentive to actually better oneself, but it will kill businesses and dry up jobs entirely.
So there you have it - the reason to keep businesses shuttered and people unemployed: the more the leftists succeed in doing that, the more inevitable "socialism in a heavy dosage is inevitable." IOW, the longer we drag this out, the more likely the country will go the way of Venezuela.
We see hints of this on under threads: the "overpaying" people to stay unemployed, essentially giving them twice what they could command on the open market, is a way to force employers to overpay to get them to take a job. The thing that progressives don't get is that overpaying unskilled, poorly educated people doesn't just remove any incentive to actually better oneself, but it will kill businesses and dry up jobs entirely.
I think so. As the economy begins to decline more and more, the government will feel pressure to implement programs that won’t be easy to phase out once this tempest is over. And as it turns out, some very wealthy people see serious problems ahead if unemployment reaches critical mass and the wealthy come off as looking unscathed.
Let’s face it...if we have tens of millions of unemployed, socialism in a heavy dosage is inevitable. It took the Republican Party almost 50 years to dismantle the New Deal, so I can totally understand their fears. It’ll be much harder to dismantle it next time because there’s no bipartisanship anymore at any level.
If things keep going the way they are, I agree with Mark Cuban that there will be a raise in minimum wage, a guaranteed federal jobs program to get people back to work, and I’ll just throw this one in: national health care with a public option.
So maybe some good will come out of this cataclysm. And Democrats shouldn’t shirk from the opportunity to implement those things pronto!
To your next point, exactly how did Republicans "dismantle the New Deal"? We still have social security. If anything, we have MORE giveaway programs: subsidized housing, reduced or free utilities, free breakfasts and lunches for the schoolkids, and food stamps. And in case that isn't enough, we have leftists calling to have other people pay off college loans, give free 4-year-tuition, and now, unbelievably, give illegal aliens free college.
I think we should go back to calling government assistance "Relief." It implies that is a temporary measure to help someone down on their luck TEMPORARILY, and that it is a last resort. The leftists are taking are BACKWARDS; how ironic (and arrogant) that they named themselves "progressives."
True that. Requiring employers to overpay, as leftists want to do, will simply result in fewer jobs - and more people on government assistance. Now that I think about it, perhaps that's their end game.
So there you have it - the reason to keep businesses shuttered and people unemployed: the more the leftists succeed in doing that, the more inevitable "socialism in a heavy dosage is inevitable." IOW, the longer we drag this out, the more likely the country will go the way of Venezuela.
We see hints of this on under threads: the "overpaying" people to stay unemployed, essentially giving them twice what they could command on the open market, is a way to force employers to overpay to get them to take a job. The thing that progressives don't get is that overpaying unskilled, poorly educated people doesn't just remove any incentive to actually better oneself, but it will kill businesses and dry up jobs entirely.
It's good to see DD had the honesty to say it. Now, I wish the MSM and members of the Democratic Party had the same level of integrity, instead of pretending they have some faux concern for public health.
Seems like you are cheering on poverty and dire circumstances so people can be forced to rely on the government for employment and health care? All so you can feel like you won some political ideology war?
Irrelevant. Whether I’m cheering it on or not doesn’t change the reality. I’m a nobody like you. You’re giving me too much power. I have no affect on the outcome of this mess. So I want it used to my side’s advantage.
You do too. You’re just not real enough to admit it.
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It's good to see DD had the honesty to say it. Now, I wish the MSM and members of the Democratic Party had the same level of integrity, instead of pretending they have some faux concern for public health.
Thanks. I always keep it real no matter what. I’m not asking people to agree with me. Lol...I don’t care.
I think so. As the economy begins to decline more and more, the government will feel pressure to implement programs that won’t be easy to phase out once this tempest is over. And as it turns out, some very wealthy people see serious problems ahead if unemployment reaches critical mass and the wealthy come off as looking unscathed.
Let’s face it...if we have tens of millions of unemployed, socialism in a heavy dosage is inevitable. It took the Republican Party almost 50 years to dismantle the New Deal, so I can totally understand their fears. It’ll be much harder to dismantle it next time because there’s no bipartisanship anymore at any level.
If things keep going the way they are, I agree with Mark Cuban that there will be a raise in minimum wage, a guaranteed federal jobs program to get people back to work, and I’ll just throw this one in: national health care with a public option.
So maybe some good will come out of this cataclysm. And Democrats shouldn’t shirk from the opportunity to implement those things pronto!
Funny we have had protests here in CA.
Saws the one in LA interviewed on the news some were advocates of undocumented workers who are hurting due to not eligible for UE benefits. I guess they're right wing Trump supporters huh?
Ohers are out of work, have businesses they will not be able to reopen, again not those right wing Trump supporters.
So epic fail on your part.
Oh and the college kids here are angry and going to protest the UC system for not being able to get refunds back, we all know how conservative most college kids and especialy in CA....LOL.
Honestly, think before you post.
You see you could probably pull that off it the protests were just in places like Oklahoma, Michigan, but when a state like CA is showing people are fed up due to having a tyrant for a Governor, people are fed up.
So cut the nonsense, it is people like you on the extreme right and the extreme left that have helped create this divide. You see both sides are fascists. That's right, you shut down and down right hate people you don't even know.
There are morons in this country who are thrilled if the economy collapses thinking it will destroy Trump(for the record I can't stand him) but the joke is on them, they will be impacted and if they kids they will be impacted....and Trump will still have millions.
It took 12 years for the US to make a full recovery due to the Great Depression, you think about.
Don't know hold you are, or if you have children. I can't speak for you , but from your many posts you give off the vibe of a very bitter person who enjoys the suffering of others who views are different than yours. Not good for you, it ages you and causes you illness.
So red state, blue state, black, white, brown, etc. , straight, gay, young , old..doesn't matter when someone's life has been destroyed.
I feel very bad for younger people in their 20s and 30s, what kind of future do they have. Those are the years you earn and plan, a decade of high unemployment.
Yet, you gloat...shame on you.
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So there you have it - the reason to keep businesses shuttered and people unemployed: the more the leftists succeed in doing that, the more inevitable "socialism in a heavy dosage is inevitable." IOW, the longer we drag this out, the more likely the country will go the way of Venezuela.
We see hints of this on under threads: the "overpaying" people to stay unemployed, essentially giving them twice what they could command on the open market, is a way to force employers to overpay to get them to take a job. The thing that progressives don't get is that overpaying unskilled, poorly educated people doesn't just remove any incentive to actually better oneself, but it will kill businesses and dry up jobs entirely.
Remember the extra $600 a week is only for 3 months, and 3 months will fly by.
I don't think it will be extended. I live in CA and I believe UE benefits max out at $900b a month. If they live in LA or San Francisco in most cases that isn't even going to cover their rent.
We have already seen self serve checkouts in stores, kiosks to order food at fast food places. They will start to use mostly robotics with only a handful of humans.
Irrelevant. Whether I’m cheering it on or not doesn’t change the reality. I’m a nobody like you. You’re giving me too much power. I have no affect on the outcome of this mess. So I want it used to my side’s advantage.
You do too. You’re just not real enough to admit it.
Thanks. I always keep it real no matter what. I’m not asking people to agree with me. Lol...I don’t care.
Don't tell me what your ignorant, uninformed, and politicized mind thinks about me.
Reality is that I want what's best for the people, and that's certainly not becoming slaves to the government to rely on them for income and Healthcare. Sad that you would want people to be slaves. You always act like some tough guy know it all on here, but the sad reality is that you crave having the government coddle and enslave you. It's sad, man up and own your own destiny you are better than that.
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