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Where do you live ? I will come with my friend and we will point a shotgun and a 357 at you. If you attempt to defend yourself, we will shoot you and then claim self defense.
It's clear in the video that the jogger attempted to avoid the two gun-wielding men. One of the shot and then he grabbed for the gun, as any sane person would do. I guess they expect black people to lay down and allow themselves to be shot without attempting to save their lives.
I don't think any reasonable fair minded person wants to see innocent people shot. That said not sure why the OP is trying to conflate this with the 2A. People shouldn't go around shooting people or stabbing them or any plethora of other ways in which someone can kill someone else. Murderous intent is the key here. The guns are just a conduit of which any other weapon could have been used with equality lethality.
In 2018, race was reported for 6,266 known hate crime offenders. Of these offenders:
53.6 percent were White. 24.0 percent were Black or African American
This is definitely in line with the representation of African americans in the general population when correcting for age. Half of white people are above 48 years old.
And, what does that have to do with this individual case? These are individuals, not statistics. The video clearly shows the two shooters as the aggressors, but we will have to wait to see which way the grand jury sees it.
When you start arguing stats overall like this in an attempt to push the blame onto a group of people instead of the merits of this particular incident/case, then that makes you appear to be racist.
And, what does that have to do with this individual case? These are individuals, not statistics. The video clearly shows the two shooters as the aggressors, but we will have to wait to see which way the grand jury sees it.
I am responding to the claim that black people commit more hate crimes that white people.
In 2018, race was reported for 6,266 known hate crime offenders. Of these offenders:
53.6 percent were White. 24.0 percent were Black or African American
This is definitely in line with the representation of African americans in the general population when correcting for age. Half of white people are above 48 years old.
lol @ "when corrected for age". Face it, blacks commit 24% of the hate crimes yet are only 12.7% of the population. Blacks are almost twice as likely to commit a race based hate crime as a White person.
lol @ "when corrected for age". Face it, blacks commit 24% of the hate crimes yet are only 12.7% of the population. Blacks are almost twice as likely to commit a race based hate crime as a White person.
Do you think that is pertinent to this case? Would a prosecutor or defense attorney admit that into the record as evidence in a trial? Do you think the prosecutor plans to introduce that to the grand jury in this case? Totally irrelevant.
The video appears to show him running toward and fighting the guy who's armed with a gun...???
Normally someone who is innocent would run away from the guys with the guns, not run toward them.
If someone pointed a gun at me, I'd head in the opposite direction. But you can see in the video that he's trying to fight with the man who is holding a shotgun? It looks like he tries to grab the gun at one point, and then starts punching the guy before he gets shot.
Of course none of us have all the facts in this case.
But I will point out that families of criminals will sometimes cover for their criminal relatives.
But we don't know.
The video doesn't provide any context to what happened before this encounter.
Trying to turn this into a racial issue by using the phrase "rednecks" isn't going to help any.
Out for a run?
OK, then why initiate a scuffle with a guy that has a long arm of some sort?
If the hillbilly in question just wanted to kill a random non-white, why do it in a populated area and only after dancing with the guy?
If he were just out for a run, why circle back in front of the truck at all?
Why didn't he keep on running?
Guarantee there was a beef between these "rednecks" and our "innocent black jogger" that neither party could take to the police.
Find out why the jogger was chasing the truck and you'll know the rest of the story.
lol @ "when corrected for age". Face it, blacks commit 24% of the hate crimes yet are only 12.7% of the population. Blacks are almost twice as likely to commit a race based hate crime as a White person.
Most white people are retired or preparing for retirement, well past their prime. The average age for minorities is 27.
So the guy is clearly jogging and jogs around the truck...and they try to hold him up? Looks like THEY were trying to rob him and then come up with some raggedy story. But people will believe anything...
OK, then why initiate a scuffle with a guy that has a long arm of some sort?
If the hillbilly in question just wanted to kill a random non-white, why do it in a populated area and only after dancing with the guy?
If he were just out for a run, why circle back in front of the truck at all?
Why didn't he keep on running?
Guarantee there was a beef between these "rednecks" and our "innocent black jogger" that neither party could take to the police.
Find out why the jogger was chasing the truck and you'll know the rest of the story.
Meth deal gone bad?
You pull a gun on someone minding their own business, you are the aggressor. It is not legal to roll around in your pick up truck, hopping out every now and then to stick guns in the face of people minding their own business jogging down the street.
When you do so, you are likely to trigger a fight or flight response. If the victim chooses to fight, that is their attempt at valid and legal self defense.
If the jogger wrested the gun from the man who chose to point it at him unprovoked and killed both of them THAT would have been a self defense killing.
That did not happen and thus we have the other scenario: MURDER.
When you draw down on some random person and they attack you, you don't get to claim "self defense" anymore. The act of aiming a firearm at a person is in and of itself an act of aggression.
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