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Old 05-05-2020, 11:01 PM
 
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Yes, it takes longer to spread to the more sparsely populated Red states. That's just the nature of an airborne-communicable virus. At least they've had more time to prepare and may benefit from lessons learned in said Blue states.
Not necessarily. Look at Georgia. It's a heavily population state. Atlanta is there. While the Atlanta metro area has been hit hard by Covid-19, it's not the worst. The worst of Covid-19 in Georgia is Dougherty County, where Albany is located. A small county of 91,000 people, located in an otherwise rural part of Georgia. More people have died of Covid-19 than in any other Georgia county, and not just per capita. We're talking about raw numbers. 114 had died thus for in a county of 91,000 people.

 
Old 05-05-2020, 11:24 PM
 
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I'm going to open up a can of worms. Consider this. Per capita, Black Americans die from this more than anyone else. And no, I do not blame this on genetics. The people dying from this the most are often people with compromised immune systems, diabetes, heart disease, high blood pressure, and it has certainly taken out alot of elderly individuals. Black American men have the lowest life expectancy in America. While 8 out of 10 deaths are of those 65 and older, this could also be due to the other things I mentioned.

There are other things to consider. Per capita, fewer Black Americans have health insurance. Some individuals don't go to the doctor, even when they should. Many people go to the emergency room not knowing they have health problems until it's too late. Higher rates of diabetes and HIV. There is also something to consider. While obesity is definitely a big factor, this needs to mentioned. Black men have obesity rates similar to White males, while Black female obesity rates are markedly higher. However, men are dying from this than women. Heart disease, high blood pressure, alot of stress-related illnesses. HIV is also likely contributing.

Covid-19 has exposed alot of existing health problems in America. It's also showing who goes to the doctor and who doesn't. It has exposed who has access to health care and who often doesn't.
 
Old 05-06-2020, 06:57 AM
 
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Not necessarily. Look at Georgia. It's a heavily population state. Atlanta is there. While the Atlanta metro area has been hit hard by Covid-19, it's not the worst. The worst of Covid-19 in Georgia is Dougherty County, where Albany is located. A small county of 91,000 people, located in an otherwise rural part of Georgia. More people have died of Covid-19 than in any other Georgia county, and not just per capita. We're talking about raw numbers. 114 had died thus for in a county of 91,000 people.
In pandemics, a single person can trigger a cascading outbreak.

South Korea for example had a major outbreak traced to a single Zumba class.

So maybe you had a lady that is extremely social and active and also works in a nursing home that got it while visiting relatives somewhere or had taken a trip abroad etc.

Next thing you know she's given it to 50 people who in turn give it to 50 more and so forth.

Whoops I went and read and it looks like a funeral (lots of hugs and handshakes there) attended by someone from out of town as well as a bunch of people gathered up for jury selection.

Rural areas are isolated to some extent but that can leave them less impacted and less wary.

We had to get after our elderly parents to basically stay in for a while in a similar rural area. Now the small town area has had cases and a death, just takes 1 link to bring it in.
 
Old 05-06-2020, 07:43 AM
 
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First the Americans and Europeans shrugged and said this was a Chinese problem.
Then we shrugged and said it was an Asian problem, third world problem.
Then when Italians started to succumb, we said it ain't our problem.
Then when New Yorkers started to get it, we said well it's just NY.
.....
And on it goes.
 
Old 05-06-2020, 07:59 AM
 
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Covid is mainly the NY metro pandemic.

It is the Epicenter.
NYC Metro area:

Most populous

Most densely populated

Most jobs in the US

Most international arriving flights, from Europe

Largest subway system in US

Largest subway system in the world based on number of stations

Largest ridership of public transportation in the US
 
Old 05-06-2020, 08:02 AM
 
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Take New York City out of the impact studies and come back and tell us how it is.
 
Old 05-06-2020, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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First the Americans and Europeans shrugged and said this was a Chinese problem.
Then we shrugged and said it was an Asian problem, third world problem.
Then when Italians started to succumb, we said it ain't our problem.
Then when New Yorkers started to get it, we said well it's just NY.
.....
And on it goes.
A collective failure to imagine......
 
Old 05-06-2020, 08:12 AM
 
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We had to get after our elderly parents to basically stay in for a while in a similar rural area. Now the small town area has had cases and a death, just takes 1 link to bring it in.
YES and they don't have the resources.

They have one store.....blah blah.




New York City and the surrounding communities really skew the stats for the USA. It has nothing to do with being primarily Democrat or the surrounding communities being Democrat.

The dense population, the commuting lifestyle -- are really specific to that area. It isn't just the subway -- it's the commuter trains coming in from surrounding states.

Also -- I think business travelers between Washington DC, New York City, etc.......go back and forth.
 
Old 05-06-2020, 08:13 AM
 
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Not necessarily. Look at Georgia. It's a heavily population state. Atlanta is there. While the Atlanta metro area has been hit hard by Covid-19, it's not the worst. The worst of Covid-19 in Georgia is Dougherty County, where Albany is located. A small county of 91,000 people, located in an otherwise rural part of Georgia. More people have died of Covid-19 than in any other Georgia county, and not just per capita. We're talking about raw numbers. 114 had died thus for in a county of 91,000 people.
A COVID-19 Cluster

Traced to two large funeral/ celebration of life events in late February- early March. At least one unknown Super Spreader attended. Within a few weeks the virus exploded in Albany.
 
Old 05-06-2020, 08:15 AM
 
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I will add some of the more 'red' counties in are state are some of the hardest hit.

Has little to do with the politics.
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